Lower class Stockers require less thrashing?

[tommy d]

Hey guys, I only started this post and posted the pics in jest. Every time I stopped by to talk to them all could see were ankles! Just giving them a little credit for thrashing on that Pinto.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Gary! Where have you been!!!? We have missed beating you up (verbally) here on the forum! Welcome back my friend! Jim


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Hi Jim, I'm glad you (and whoever else you felt were "verbally" beating up on me), truly did miss me...lol. Since I didn't do any stocker racing in 2013 (and for that matter since May 2012), it was to depressing for me to be here w/o being on the racing scene like you and others have been. However, as you know I got my jabs in on you guys too, so the give and take was rather nice, and I'm glad to be back.

However, I actually was here two months ago when a thread here was talking about Toyota being the "Official Car of the NHRA", and I had plenty to say about that! There's even a thread in the "Lounge" section where I had some comments for "Eddie's 66", with regards to import branded vehicles.

I had a dog in this fight though, because my Cavalier is definitely a lower class stocker. I must admit I haven't had to spend nearly as much on my stocker as many who race rwd stockers have had to, and I'm glad. Even with NHRA dropping the indexes .3 back around 2010 (?), and the altitude correction factors being changed from the way they were for Stock and Super Stock, to the super categories factor (I hope if you're on the board, that you and others will seek out bringing the old indexes and our correction factors back, Jim?), my car still is competitive enough that I had a nice showing here at the Phoenix LODRS race 2mths ago. It's nice to mainly gas up and go (with the most thrashing I need to do on the car being it's occasional oil change). However, if I had Billy Nees's (or Woodro Josey's) smarts, and more dough, not only would I be doing more racing, but I'd be able to wring more hp out of my little V6 (Having the smarts of those well versed Like Woody in tuning an "Accel Calmap", would be a great start). Being able to find a flange kit for a 173 V6 (like the ones made for the S-10/S-15 trucks), and making my own headers for my car would be a big help as well. Having a house so I could tinker with my car would be the best help of the three though, and that's a work in progress!

Thanks for the thoughts though bud, and have fun at your racing events Jim!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by tommy d

Hey guys, I only started this post and posted the pics in jest. Every time I stopped by to talk to them all could see were ankles! Just giving them a little credit for thrashing on that Pinto.

I know you did, tommy d ..but this is an interesting subject to some of us.

I'd say the slower Stockers. at least the one off, or oddball ones require much more thrashing than say a 305 Camaro..Those pretty much use an off the shelf converter, cam, carb, trans, and suspension..
I don't see anyone on here selling Vari-jets, Dual jets, or Holley /Weber 2bbls..
..or headers for a 2.8 Cavalier.

I suppose Billy would build you a Monojet if you really wanted one bad enough ;-)

[Jim Cimarolli]

I've worked on both upper and lower class stockers and in my opinion it is harder to make hay with the slower cars.

[impstocker]

This is for GTX John- you mention tearing up more psrts on your wagon because i can assume it is heavier- I am building a 65 Impala, racing weight will be between 3900-4100 lbs, like the 68 Impala I ran in I/S I never broke any parts, really! I ran a Jerico stick too- I will be running a Turbo 350 in my 65 with the same 396/325HP combo- can I expect breakage because of the tranny? Just wondering-

Will Lamprecht- 65 Impala in progress Div 1 -I/SA

[GTX JOHN]

I am afraid probably so...........
Particularly if it is fairly fast ( 1.498 to 1.54 60's )

Jon 's wagon
P/SA = 3850
O/SA= 3620

Small Valve Low Po 318 = 230 HP with 380 Lift

Mark William's 35 Spline/Axles/Pro Gears

In Phoenix this year .....Broke 9 Teeth off Ring Gear
Bent 8 3/4 like a pretzel
Took an hour to get each axle out
with slide hammer with 300 Lb Guy
on the end.

Your results may vary.

[Bob Bender]

Originally Posted by impstocker

This is for GTX John- you mention tearing up more psrts on your wagon because i can assume it is heavier- I am building a 65 Impala, racing weight will be between 3900-4100 lbs, like the 68 Impala I ran in I/S I never broke any parts, really! I ran a Jerico stick too- I will be running a Turbo 350 in my 65 with the same 396/325HP combo- can I expect breakage because of the tranny? Just wondering-

Will Lamprecht- 65 Impala in progress Div 1 -I/SA

At 4400 lbs, I have broken ring and pinions and a few other small things. Not the parts breaker you would think. 350-255 with turbo 350. I ran a 325-396 4-door big cay years ago and it was not bad on parts.

[Bobby DiDomenico]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

I am afraid probably so...........
Particularly if it is fairly fast ( 1.498 to 1.54 60's )

Jon 's wagon
P/SA = 3850
O/SA= 3620

Small Valve Low Po 318 = 230 HP with 380 Lift

Mark William's 35 Spline/Axles/Pro Gears

In Phoenix this year .....Broke 9 Teeth off Ring Gear
Bent 8 3/4 like a pretzel
Took an hour to get each axle out
with slide hammer with 300 Lb Guy
on the end.

Your results may vary.

John,
Next time you over achieve show us some pictures please!