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Old 05-22-2014, 06:57 PM   #1
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And now there's this......

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...tlanta-dragway

So it's against the rules and is finable ($20,000) to complain about the track being unsafe? Jim

More beer money and bonuses for Compton and associates!

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Old 05-22-2014, 08:17 PM   #2
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From another email I received:

What will be the effect of monetary punishment on setting records. Any racer who considers setting a record has always had the concern that something may not pass no matter how careful they have been to insure their car is legal. Under a fine system that racer will also have the additional concern of some substantial monetary punishment beyond all the other difficulties that go with not passing.

Entering a national event where tear-down is likely creates another quagmire with the same concerns as a record tear-down but with greater expense potential since national events are more expensive given the travel and entry costs and the several days they entail. Then now ad to that a monetary punishment?

Consider this too. If a racer gets an engine from an engine builder, as so many do now, and for any reason an issue is found during tear-down and the racer is fined what then will the remedy be? Will an engine builder be willing to pay the fine for the racer? This was a difficult circumstance without a fine system.

There is still much to consider here.


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Old 05-22-2014, 08:54 PM   #3
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Default Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

This has taken the fun out of everything.

I understand telling someone to go home for an extended period of time for a mistake, but to fine them is crazy. If I was to receive a fine I would pack it up and race in some other type Motorsport. The amount of money it take to race NHRA is already off the chart IMO!
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:39 PM   #4
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Here's the reason they have to fine everybody for everything! The top nine board members make about 45% bonuses on top of their ridiculous salaries. Compton made $708,900 in 2012! Jim

https://www.facebook.com/NHRA.TaxReturn?fref=photo



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Old 05-22-2014, 09:40 PM   #5
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I must say I have been eagerly waiting to finish my stocker, it's really been a dream of mine since I was a young teenager which was my first introduction to stock and super stock. These recent developments have me hesitant to join the ranks I must say. Super gas is starting to look real good...
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I can see sending a racer home for the weekend and asking that the problem be fixed before the next race but fines are absolute bull**** and as members of NHRA we need to put a stop to it!

Where are our divisional reps on this?? Time to step in guys and let NHRA know this is totally unacceptable!! If we accept it now it will just get more worse.

The next call or e-mail you make tomorrow should be to your division stock/super stock rep.

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Default Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

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I can see sending a racer home for the weekend and asking that the problem be fixed before the next race but fines are absolute bull**** and as members of NHRA we need to put a stop to it!

Where are our divisional reps on this?? Time to step in guys and let NHRA know this is totally unacceptable!! If we accept it now it will just get more worse.

The next call or e-mail you make tomorrow should be to your division stock/super stock rep.

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I agree 100%
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Default Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson

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I can see sending a racer home for the weekend and asking that the problem be fixed before the next race but fines are absolute bull**** and as members of NHRA we need to put a stop to it!

Where are our divisional reps on this?? Time to step in guys and let NHRA know this is totally unacceptable!! If we accept it now it will just get more worse.

The next call or e-mail you make tomorrow should be to your division stock/super stock rep.

My two cents.

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This.

I can see a longer term suspension, or even a fine, for a flagrant, egregious, intentional violation.

However, in this instance, at the most, Don should have had a DQ, and have to bring it to the next race apart for inspection, maybe NHRA could keep the carburetor as well. Minor unintentional infractions should not be punished with ludicrous fines and suspensions.

That being said, I want to state clearly that the tech guys have a tough job, for little pay, and the guys in the field had nothing to do with the fine. Some of the tech guys are good friends of mine, I appreciate what they do for us, and I support them.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:22 AM   #9
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I disagree with all this. Not even sure that he was illegal. Cam lift check with different lifters or hydraulic lifter? How was the carb measured? Probably with a worn out homemade guage or junk 19.00 dial indicator? This stuff gets weirder all the time. As has been said already in this thread, quality equipment and certified standards need to be used if you are going to get micro picky on stuff and impose fines. All of which I carry in my rig for my benefit and the benefit of my customers should we be at the same race. I also furnish an identical plunger height lifter with all stock eliminator engines because that is what I was told for years. Sometimes tech will have an adjustable plunger lifter that they set and adjust and that is fine as long as it is measured properly which isn't as easy as it seems. And I agree that 1 thou. over is illegal and a tenth of a cc too big or small is illegal. However, to impose a penalty you better be able to measure accurately to those small amounts. And that means certified calibration and standards (to verify instruments accuracy and repeatability) and climate controlled conditions on the cc stuff.
And no I won't be responsible for these variances after a bullet leaves my shop due to factors beyond my control such as parts replacement by others and winging worn out stuff in the water box. However, I encourage my customers to let me check their stuff before assembly in their presence if possible and provide scale measured pictures and video for stuff that has to be shipped. Also I like to educate my customers as to checking and measurement practices during an inspection.
And like Allen said above, I appreciate what the tech people in the field have to endure for very little compensation.

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