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Old 06-15-2014, 10:47 PM   #1
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Guys, the drain hole on that side is plugged to keep oil off the crank. (That was done long before I got the block.) The oil pressure issue went away when I changed the pump, I'm going to put the Schumann on an oil pump "dyno" when I get time. The oil looks black in the pics because it's green - Brad Penn.
Going to order a different top ring set this week and cross my fingers.
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:38 PM   #2
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Unplug that hole!
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:10 AM   #3
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Paul did you get the oiling problem fixed.?
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:38 AM   #4
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Looks like some may have put the oil rings upside down. For the best results a plate hone is a must if your looking to achieve good ring seal.

GM blocks seem pretty frail and the cylinders will distort once the head is bolted on.

The cylinder show a lot of scuffing either debris or to tight of a fit or both.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:09 AM   #5
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I've been holding off posting on this until I had it fixed, so....
If anyone out there is considering gapless rings, DON'T DO IT!!!
On the advice of Mike Taylor, I got in touch with Gregg Luneack at Tri City Competition to talk about rings. It seems this is a very common issue with the Total Seal Gapless pieces of she-ite. Gregg hooked me up with a set of his Race Rings...he mailed them Saturday, I had them Monday morning. I got the thing back together and fired it up tonight, and whaddya know! No smoke!
I can't believe Total Seal continues to sell this garbage. I have not contacted them yet, but I will tomorrow. $350 down the toilet, not to mention countless hours of work and stress, plus missing a month of racing...I'm pissed.
And Ed, I opened up the hole like you said! Thanks to everyone for the info. We'll find out this weekend how much faster it is than last year.
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I've been holding off posting on this until I had it fixed, so....
If anyone out there is considering gapless rings, DON'T DO IT!!!
On the advice of Mike Taylor, I got in touch with Gregg Luneack at Tri City Competition to talk about rings. It seems this is a very common issue with the Total Seal Gapless pieces of she-ite. Gregg hooked me up with a set of his Race Rings...he mailed them Saturday, I had them Monday morning. I got the thing back together and fired it up tonight, and whaddya know! No smoke!
I can't believe Total Seal continues to sell this garbage. I have not contacted them yet, but I will tomorrow. $350 down the toilet, not to mention countless hours of work and stress, plus missing a month of racing...I'm pissed.
And Ed, I opened up the hole like you said! Thanks to everyone for the info. We'll find out this weekend how much faster it is than last year.
I have used a lot of T/S rings with out any issues so far, I guess if you know what your doing and put them in right there should be any problems.

What caused the scuffing on the cylinders?

I would be willing to say you had the 2and rings upside down with all that oil in the cylinders.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:04 AM   #7
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They were in right, Carl. That was the first thing I checked when I took it apart, and I hoped that's what the problem was.
You're right, I just don't know what I'm doing...that's why it runs just fine with the new rings.
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