How about buy-backs in stock and super stock

7423 · 07-23-2014, 08:35 PM

If you asked the super class index racers, most would be in favor of buy backs. Stock and SS racers, a very different breed, and in my opinion, very much against buy backs. That being said, I am sure the responses here will be very interesting to say the least...........................

Mike Carr · 07-23-2014, 08:41 PM

No to buybacks. If it were a 'second chance' race, for all first round and/or second losers for an extra shot at money in their own race, I would be OK with it. But, not putting them back into the next round of the main race. Leave that for local bracket racing.

voltdr · 07-23-2014, 08:41 PM

This poses an interesting question. Since "buy-backs" are a money making proposition for the promoters, It's amazing that NHRA hasn't already started doing this................
Dan

Mike Gray · 07-23-2014, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltdr

This poses an interesting question. Since "buy-backs" are a money making proposition for the promoters, It's amazing that NHRA hasn't already started doing this................
Dan

How much for the buy-back in top fuel? LOL
NHRA could make enough to raise the sportsman purse!

Dave Ribeiro · 07-23-2014, 09:23 PM

Cicero819, ( Claude )

What kind of Stocker or S/S do you own or drive ?? Thanks, but No-thanks!!
Leave Stock & S/S alone , we have enough things to argue/ fight about ?
As Rich said we are still drawing Racers, let's Fix payouts & other things ...

cicero819 · 07-23-2014, 09:36 PM

Rich, my friends are already stoking the fire as we speak. I was just thinking about implementing at races where stock and super stock haven't done too terrific lately in the car count area, Denver comes to mind and some of the western stops would get some extra cars. Just like most of you I've been old school, you lose and pack up for home but after talking with a former drag racer racing in stock eliminator and now enjoying racing Miata's series and low bucks road racing, he said that he would consider racing in stock if they had buy-backs. His way of thinking is that since they're no more class racing the BB would make up for the hurry and wait time that he's wasted so much, now he races for three solid hours for his $200 a big difference in his humble opinion. Don't wait like Captain Edward J. Smith and not plan for what might be just around the corner.Claude P.S b Dave I am a fan of stock eliminator and have own my share of Stock eliminator cars in the 80's and currently have a new style Camaro 2000 sitting in my garage. I know that you've been racing for a long time and paid your dues but it doesn't make you the gate keeper. I was totally against the idea in bracket racing but after trying it I have to say that it helps the track operator and that can't be a bad thing. So if only people who races have a word to say about stock eliminator than expect a short life span.Claude Ruel

Rat Raceway · 07-23-2014, 09:43 PM

NO!

I would just bracket race!

Keith 944 · 07-23-2014, 09:58 PM

A separate race or "last chance eliminator" for say anyone who lost 1-3rnd round might be an option but would be very hard to do with just stock or just super stock. need a new ladder, qualifying, not many cars, etc.. I also hate buybacks and think this is a bad idea at this level.

Lew Silverman · 07-23-2014, 10:22 PM

I know your heart is in the right place, Claude, but this would NEVER work for a number of very good reasons, some of which have already been mentioned. A few of the local tracks tried changing the name to "re-entry" and having the first round 'runner-ups' race each other for a spot in the second round, separate from the winners. It didn't matter WHAT you called it, it was not well received! Most of our races also feature a Saturday "Combo", which makes a lot more sense, for both the racers and the promoters!

Dave Ribeiro · 07-23-2014, 10:44 PM

Claude ,

You sound just like the people in the early 70's who said that Class Racing
was dead.. It's 44 years later & it's the strongest class in NHRA .. Anyway,
I don't like buy-backs either, but I also have a vote !!! Someone tell me why all the buy-backs go to the track & not to the Winnings ??? I think if you want Buy Bucks , you go Bracket Racing ............ Claude, The Denver thing is a track problem ? National events are a whole different problem ?

07-23-2014, 08:35 PM	#1
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock If you asked the super class index racers, most would be in favor of buy backs. Stock and SS racers, a very different breed, and in my opinion, very much against buy backs. That being said, I am sure the responses here will be very interesting to say the least...........................

07-23-2014, 08:41 PM	#2
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock No to buybacks. If it were a 'second chance' race, for all first round and/or second losers for an extra shot at money in their own race, I would be OK with it. But, not putting them back into the next round of the main race. Leave that for local bracket racing. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

07-23-2014, 08:41 PM	#3
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 706 Likes: 77 Liked 100 Times in 51 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock This poses an interesting question. Since "buy-backs" are a money making proposition for the promoters, It's amazing that NHRA hasn't already started doing this................ Dan

07-23-2014, 09:23 PM	#5
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock Cicero819, ( Claude ) What kind of Stocker or S/S do you own or drive ?? Thanks, but No-thanks!! Leave Stock & S/S alone , we have enough things to argue/ fight about ? As Rich said we are still drawing Racers, let's Fix payouts & other things ... __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK Last edited by Dave Ribeiro; 07-23-2014 at 09:27 PM.

07-23-2014, 09:36 PM	#6
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock Rich, my friends are already stoking the fire as we speak. I was just thinking about implementing at races where stock and super stock haven't done too terrific lately in the car count area, Denver comes to mind and some of the western stops would get some extra cars. Just like most of you I've been old school, you lose and pack up for home but after talking with a former drag racer racing in stock eliminator and now enjoying racing Miata's series and low bucks road racing, he said that he would consider racing in stock if they had buy-backs. His way of thinking is that since they're no more class racing the BB would make up for the hurry and wait time that he's wasted so much, now he races for three solid hours for his $200 a big difference in his humble opinion. Don't wait like Captain Edward J. Smith and not plan for what might be just around the corner.Claude P.S b Dave I am a fan of stock eliminator and have own my share of Stock eliminator cars in the 80's and currently have a new style Camaro 2000 sitting in my garage. I know that you've been racing for a long time and paid your dues but it doesn't make you the gate keeper. I was totally against the idea in bracket racing but after trying it I have to say that it helps the track operator and that can't be a bad thing. So if only people who races have a word to say about stock eliminator than expect a short life span.Claude Ruel Last edited by cicero819; 07-23-2014 at 09:46 PM.

07-23-2014, 09:43 PM	#7
Rat Raceway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Denver Co Posts: 408 Likes: 282 Liked 35 Times in 17 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock NO! I would just bracket race! __________________ Ross Gregory 5133 Stock,Super Stock 53 Top Dragster

07-23-2014, 09:58 PM	#8
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,193 Likes: 1,162 Liked 1,877 Times in 577 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock A separate race or "last chance eliminator" for say anyone who lost 1-3rnd round might be an option but would be very hard to do with just stock or just super stock. need a new ladder, qualifying, not many cars, etc.. I also hate buybacks and think this is a bad idea at this level. __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody

07-23-2014, 10:22 PM	#9
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock I know your heart is in the right place, Claude, but this would NEVER work for a number of very good reasons, some of which have already been mentioned. A few of the local tracks tried changing the name to "re-entry" and having the first round 'runner-ups' race each other for a spot in the second round, separate from the winners. It didn't matter WHAT you called it, it was not well received! Most of our races also feature a Saturday "Combo", which makes a lot more sense, for both the racers and the promoters! __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

07-23-2014, 10:44 PM	#10
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: How about buy-backs in stock and super stock Claude , You sound just like the people in the early 70's who said that Class Racing was dead.. It's 44 years later & it's the strongest class in NHRA .. Anyway, I don't like buy-backs either, but I also have a vote !!! Someone tell me why all the buy-backs go to the track & not to the Winnings ??? I think if you want Buy Bucks , you go Bracket Racing ............ Claude, The Denver thing is a track problem ? National events are a whole different problem ? __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK Last edited by Dave Ribeiro; 07-23-2014 at 10:50 PM.

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