**Final decision on two-step usage**

[LNorton]

I wouldn't worry about the stick guys that keep the 2step hooked into the line lock switch, because in a stick car, if you let off the button, the car still doesn't move. And if you hold on to the button and let go of the pedal, the car is leaving whether you like it or not. Believe me, I have forgotten to let go of the button on a run or two while testing.

Moving the two-steps to the pedal is a start, but I would like to see Stock be a Footbrake class, and Super Stock be a No-E class.

Not like any of this bothers me too much anymore. We are going to an auto for the next year or so. Cant afford all of the parts breakage the clutch is causing, and cant afford to call Youngblood yet.

[sterling simmons jr]

Most of you who are complaining are IHRA racers anyway. So why are you worried about NHRA rules? I prefer to leave the rule as is. I don't think changing the rule will stop the people who are winning now because they are professional racers. Professional are usually good at what they do. Suck up your tears and lets race.

[tgriffith]

since Im one of the most vocal,,,Im assuming your speaking to me,,,,so I will answer,,,,,,,1st,,even though I have complained about it,,or "cryed" as you put it,,,,I neclected to send a vote or an opinion to anyone in NHRA,,,,my only goal is to correctly inform other racers who read these post just how and what advantages there is to using one and where its leading,,,,(in my opinion) ,,,,as a personal opinion, I would welcome ANY and ALL electronics to stockers,,,,not just to the select few who have choosen to get around the rules ,,,but to everyone and anyone that races,,,,,but what I dont like is a cross of the rules,,,,again,IMO,,either do away with it all or run anything that is available,,,even down to track counters

now to the Ihra question,,,,,nearly 99.99 percent of the time,,,what Nhra does,,,Ihra follows as far as rules are concerned in the electronic area

all this stuff needs to be brought out of the closet so all racers and more importantly the tech guys understand how things work and are being used,,,,sorry if it upsets a few

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by sterling simmons jr

Most of you who are complaining are IHRA racers anyway. So why are you worried about NHRA rules? I prefer to leave the rule as is. I don't think changing the rule will stop the people who are winning now because they are professional racers. Professional are usually good at what they do. Suck up your tears and lets race.

I hate to put it like this, but a large majority of NHRA racers are just like this. They are in their own little world and their sh!t dont stink

If you haven't noticed, this discussion is about the future of Stock Eliminator... which is also contested in IHRA, and IHRA follows NHRA's lead most of the time.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by clutch man

Thats right to much bs like t grfiffith, who is he? when was the last time he raced?????? the people starting stuff have never won anything just cry baby stuff all the time from no name racers that have never won a NHRA National event! or a ihra event.

I believe you should have done your homework before you made that comment, my friend.

[tgriffith]

no biggie Mark,,,racers dont like me giving away secrets,,,,But I am suprised clutch man wouldnt be in favor of doing way with buttons/2steps for automatics,,,,that way he could go back to winning consistently in stock

clutch,,your rite,,,I have had no success at nationals ,,, absolutley none,,,,was completely out of my elements,,,but that still doesnt change the facts of what Im posting,,,you know it and so do I,,,,,,racers somehow are getting info as they are moving down the track,,,,,,whether its legal??? whether its a guess??? who knows.....

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by tgriffith

no biggie Mark,,,racers dont like me giving away secrets,,,,But I am suprised clutch man wouldnt be in favor of doing way with buttons/2steps for automatics,,,,that way he could go back to winning consistently in stock

clutch,,your rite,,,I have had no success at nationals ,,, absolutley none,,,,was completely out of my elements,,,but that still doesnt change the facts of what Im posting,,,you know it and so do I,,,,,,racers somehow are getting info as they are moving down the track,,,,,,whether its legal??? whether its a guess??? who knows.....

this deserves a true message board response:

LOL

[Robert Pare Racing]

..there is more to life than winning a NHRA National event.

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by clutch man

Thats right to much bs like t grfiffith, who is he? when was the last time he raced?????? the people starting stuff have never won anything just cry baby stuff all the time from no name racers that have never won a NHRA National event! or a ihra event.

For a man that has never raced, I have watched Tim kick tail on a weekly basis. Even in a Super Pro final footfeedin...

If my history is correct... Tim is a past NHRA Sportsman National Champ, and finished second in IHRA Stock Points a few years back, and has won his fair share of bracket races. I would say Tim is one of the smartest racers out there.

[Billy Pires]

Originally Posted by LNorton

If you haven't noticed, this discussion is about the future of Stock Eliminator... which is also contested in IHRA, and IHRA follows NHRA's lead most of the time.

This is about the future of stock... in NHRA. It's really not NHRA's fault if IHRA copies all the rule changes. It sounds like a problem you might want to take up with whoever runs the show in IHRA.