Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Lee · 10-21-2007, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Schenck

Dean, We're talking about a car that's not going to see the track and inserting it into the ladder. That is Bull****!

Greg

I have no problem with a rental car running if it can pass tech and run the number. If it was entered to to change the ladder makeup thats a completely different call.

For the past six years I have been involved with off road desert racing. I could not figure out how the top teams would always get a great starting position on the grid. Later on I found out that they would enter buggies and trophy trucks that did not exist, since the entry fee was refunded. They would use th ebest position they got on the lottery. Finally SCORE put and end to this,

Chad Rhodes · 10-22-2007, 12:10 AM

that wasn't the only screwed up call this weekend. Did you know it is apparently legal to go to your trailer for 5 minutes before reporting to the scales after winning a round, WHO KNEW?

JRyan · 10-22-2007, 01:14 AM

I don't know who it was, but i've seen it in the past and I like to cal it the "Depends on who you are" rule. Of course that even makes things more frustrating.

Jerry

dean ribeiro · 10-22-2007, 06:55 AM

Greg:
I believe that you should be able to figure out my comment?
my comment was more about Jeremy's comment about how he lost the championship. I have seen rental cars run the index w/ very little modifications. I agree that messing w/ the ladder and not running is unfortunate and should be prevented. It needs to be prevented in the rule book first!

I still think they should ban all Fords! LOL

jerrym · 10-22-2007, 08:20 AM

Dean you dont see it as a problem when a guy who is fighting for a championship can go rent a car that is 2 seconds ABOVE the index and enter to gain the bonus points (which imo are stupid anyway) and then not have to pass fuel check? Maybe if you were in the same position as me you would.
Jeremy Mitchell

Larry Hill · 10-22-2007, 08:40 AM

Acording to the book he made the right call. Larry

dean ribeiro · 10-22-2007, 10:25 AM

Jeremy:
I think a lot of things are stupid. However, Mr Jackson (who I do not personally know) operated within the rulebook. There are quite a few things that just don't make sense to me, but the rules are published in advance and we all have a choice of whether to race or not. I just do not feel that it is the person who follows and abides by the rules, fault? For years, racers have been pouring through NHRA's classification books searching for under rated engine and car combos. I can't blame them for being smart about building a combination.

Once again, i think the rule is bull****, but not the action which was taken.

You are correct about not being in your position, but that is not the point is it?

junior barns · 10-22-2007, 10:29 AM

I dont understand. does all races that you attend count toward your pt total or just your best 5 that you attend. Thats the way it use to be. I cant imagine someone chasing the pts title would not already have enough races under their belt to need to do this anyway! As far as by passing the scale this can be an innocent mistake as this happened to me me a few years back. the person at the scale waved me by. I had to return and pass wt which I did like all of my previous runs. from that pt on I always go to scale and way!

junior barns · 10-22-2007, 10:29 AM

I dont understand. does all races that you attend count toward your pt total or just your best 5 that you attend. Thats the way it use to be. I cant imagine someone chasing the pts title would not already have enough races under their belt to need to do this anyway! As far as by passing the scale this can be an innocent mistake as this happened to me me a few years back. the person at the scale waved me by. I had to return and pass wt which I did like all of my previous runs. from that pt on I always go to scale and way!

10-22-2007, 12:10 AM	#2
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that wasn't the only screwed up call this weekend. Did you know it is apparently legal to go to your trailer for 5 minutes before reporting to the scales after winning a round, WHO KNEW? __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

10-22-2007, 01:14 AM	#3
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know who it was, but i've seen it in the past and I like to cal it the "Depends on who you are" rule. Of course that even makes things more frustrating. Jerry

10-22-2007, 06:55 AM	#4
dean ribeiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: candia, nh Posts: 528 Likes: 59 Liked 241 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Greg: I believe that you should be able to figure out my comment? my comment was more about Jeremy's comment about how he lost the championship. I have seen rental cars run the index w/ very little modifications. I agree that messing w/ the ladder and not running is unfortunate and should be prevented. It needs to be prevented in the rule book first! I still think they should ban all Fords! LOL

10-22-2007, 08:20 AM	#5
jerrym Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 17 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dean you dont see it as a problem when a guy who is fighting for a championship can go rent a car that is 2 seconds ABOVE the index and enter to gain the bonus points (which imo are stupid anyway) and then not have to pass fuel check? Maybe if you were in the same position as me you would. Jeremy Mitchell Last edited by jerrym; 10-22-2007 at 08:53 AM.

10-22-2007, 08:40 AM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,685 Likes: 1,994 Liked 11,032 Times in 2,267 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Acording to the book he made the right call. Larry __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 10-22-2007 at 09:01 AM.

10-22-2007, 10:25 AM	#7
dean ribeiro Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: candia, nh Posts: 528 Likes: 59 Liked 241 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeremy: I think a lot of things are stupid. However, Mr Jackson (who I do not personally know) operated within the rulebook. There are quite a few things that just don't make sense to me, but the rules are published in advance and we all have a choice of whether to race or not. I just do not feel that it is the person who follows and abides by the rules, fault? For years, racers have been pouring through NHRA's classification books searching for under rated engine and car combos. I can't blame them for being smart about building a combination. Once again, i think the rule is bull****, but not the action which was taken. You are correct about not being in your position, but that is not the point is it?

10-22-2007, 10:29 AM	#8
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Bill Holt's call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont understand. does all races that you attend count toward your pt total or just your best 5 that you attend. Thats the way it use to be. I cant imagine someone chasing the pts title would not already have enough races under their belt to need to do this anyway! As far as by passing the scale this can be an innocent mistake as this happened to me me a few years back. the person at the scale waved me by. I had to return and pass wt which I did like all of my previous runs. from that pt on I always go to scale and way!

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