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Old 09-16-2014, 11:46 AM   #1
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I have an open trailer for my wagon and I get my share of thumbs up but coming home after midnight from the races I also get my fare share of crazies. I've had people try to toss things into the windows(note to self, always roll up windows). I've seen drunks lean out of their cars and try to touch the side of my wagon at 60 plus MPH. I had two cars try to force me to exit and then followed me when I did exit so I drove to the police station which caused them to speed off. Attention to your race car isn't always an positive thing.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:44 PM   #2
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Randy, I agree as you know with the /b per cubic inch basic head rules you suggest but I suggest ONE class. Get it going like Modified and watch it expand participation. I bet week end local tracks could benefit from the "show" if they used it. I also think the bracket racers would love to see themselves in the spotlight and attempt to join the class.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:52 PM   #3
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Dick, I'd LOVE to have one heads-up class that fit my car perfectly. Trust me. That would be my dream. But naturally I'd want it to conform to the car I already have. That was my thoughts, that no eliminator will fit all cars wanting to go back to racing no break-out. If you do one class, you'd have to let just about any chassis combo in as long as they make weight. Which is fine with me, but don't know how it would go over. The reason I stated those 8 or nine classes in two eliminators was to include unmodified chassis on up. Was just a thought.
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Old 09-16-2014, 01:53 PM   #4
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I have an open trailer for my wagon and I get my share of thumbs up but coming home after midnight from the races I also get my fare share of crazies. I've had people try to toss things into the windows(note to self, always roll up windows). I've seen drunks lean out of their cars and try to touch the side of my wagon at 60 plus MPH. I had two cars try to force me to exit and then followed me when I did exit so I drove to the police station which caused them to speed off. Attention to your race car isn't always an positive thing.
Yep...when I return home I always keep an eye on who or what's behind me and IF I suspect anything weird , like a follower, I have a plan for that. ( part of that plan includes continuing on past my house ).
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:11 PM   #5
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there still are some S/SS racers using open trailers what makes a enclosed trailer so great ?
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:06 PM   #6
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Here is a question to ponder .

Ask a person on the street, HOW IS A RACE DECIDED ? DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CARS-----TWO PEOPLE RUNNING----ANY COMPETITION BETWEEN TWO OBJECTS GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THEIR ANSWER WILL BE---WHOEVER GETS THERE FIRST IS THE WINNER.


IN THE PRO CATEGORIES LIKE TOP FUEL / FUNNY CAR / PRO STOCK WHOEVER GETS TO FINISH FIRST------WINS !

SPORTSMAN RACING ---------NOT----OH, MAYBE ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT NOT THE NORM.

NHRA PLAYS TO THE SIMPLE. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED.

UNTIL SPORTSMAN RACING CAN OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CANNOT COMPETE WITH THE PROS. HEADS-UP RACING IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND TO THE NEWCOMER BRINGING HIS FAMILY TO THE RACES, THATS WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND !!!

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Old 09-17-2014, 05:38 PM   #7
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Finespline good response.

Randy, How about one motor size and specification. Fit in class by chassis the racer has to use... Stock chassis with the motor at Xlb/cubic
SS chassis with motor at Y/lb /cubic inch
SG chassis with motor at Z lb / cubic inch
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:43 PM   #8
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Here is a question to ponder .

Ask a person on the street, HOW IS A RACE DECIDED ? DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CARS-----TWO PEOPLE RUNNING----ANY COMPETITION BETWEEN TWO OBJECTS GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
THEIR ANSWER WILL BE---WHOEVER GETS THERE FIRST IS THE WINNER.


IN THE PRO CATEGORIES LIKE TOP FUEL / FUNNY CAR / PRO STOCK WHOEVER GETS TO FINISH FIRST------WINS !

SPORTSMAN RACING ---------NOT----OH, MAYBE ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT NOT THE NORM.

NHRA PLAYS TO THE SIMPLE. NO EXPLANATION NEEDED.

UNTIL SPORTSMAN RACING CAN OFFER SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CANNOT COMPETE WITH THE PROS. HEADS-UP RACING IS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND TO THE NEWCOMER BRINGING HIS FAMILY TO THE RACES, THATS WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND !!!
I do agree that you make a good point.

Here is an example of why it currently doesn't work.

Two G/SA cars are on the line racing Heads Up.First one to the finish line wins.One is a 1964 Dodge with an originally produced 365 horsepower rating.

The other is a 1970 Olds 442 with an originally produced 365 horsepower rating.

They leave the line and the Olds gets the hole shot,but the Dodge quickly pulls ahead by SEVERAL car lengths.

Many ask ...hey why is that old Olds so slow??

Upon further review,the Dodge crosses the scales at 3370 pounds with driver,and the Olds crosses the scales at 4075 with driver.


Over 700 pounds heavier to be in the same class with two engines that originally were rated by the factory with the same rating? Huh?
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:29 PM   #9
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442, I understand exactly what you are saying but you are breaking it down to a sportsman racer thought process. The people in the stands see 2 cars , two different colors and root for whatever body style appeals to them.
You are looking at the technical side of race, that these people will never understand unless they really become hooked on sportsman racing. All they want is the car that appeals to them to win. Simplistic and easy to understand.These people are a long way off from indexes , ahfs, cic, breakouts. It clouds the picture when it casts doubt to what you observe.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:43 PM   #10
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Thinking out loud here guys and I don't have any sort of dog in this fight either....(so don't pound this old man too hard...L-O-L).

Maybe instead of a heads up spec head category, what you really might need is a heads up category with a sealed, spec, motor???


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