Larry Morgan quitting Pro Stock

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Originally Posted by joespanova

Yep........leave it to me to start a **** storm. No problem , If I can dish it out , I fully expected nothing less in return .
Yes I have experience in engine building , yes I 've done engines for others. This isn't about "tempering my comments " its about telling it like it is. At my age I've been around this stuff long enough to see who's doing what with what.
Take Jon Kaase for example.....one of the better big block Ford engine guys in the country. For the limited amount of time he played in the NHRAs Pro Stock playground he's never won a single event as far as I know............correct me if I'm wrong as I'm sure you'd love to.
Morgan , who this thread is actually about..........has a similar record with the Ford combo. As much as I like the Fords adding variety to the mix and with all the years of experience collectively , I dont see anything anyone is going to do to change the end result being the same.
And don't think for one minute as you apparently choose to do , that I'm discrediting Mr Wescott. It is what it is as they say , and in the last years without Glidden and whatever he was doing to make them run.......and some have their theories............no one has done much with the Fords.

Jon Kaase did not win any NHRA races driving but he wrenched Dyno Don to several and a national championship in 1977.
best regards, Roland

[joespanova]

OK
You guys are beating me good..but thats OK.

Geezus.....Kaase helped on Dyno's Mustang 37-40 years ago with weight factored combos............and to say things were different then would be an understatement.
What exactly has he done with the 500 inch combos? And don't even bring up the IHRA because as far as I'm concerned the IHRA is the AAA to the majors of drag racing. I believe Ricky Smith won championships in the IHRA and never won a thing in the NHRA .Morgans decision , for whatever reason , has no doubt been influenced by the fact that he hasn't been able to get to the winners circle with the Ford.........Geezus.
Wescott ......best wishes to you , man.

[FINESPLINE]

Having read some of the interviews of CW over the years as far as building engines and design and where it has taken him in SS/AH, I believe that he is well capable of taking a Ford or any other motor designed for racing to the level of being completely competitive within the rules.

I will not quote him but I do remember reading that with his CNC machines he said that if i can dream it ,I can make it.

If anybody has seen a Ford Pro Stock head casting next to a Chrysler Pro stock head casting, they are eerily very close to each other. He is not going into this blind. This is his own challenge and I wish him nothing but the best success in the future.

[Ed Carpenter]

I wish Westcott nothing but good luck. When I said I talked to a crew member on Allen Johnson's crew and he told me about the springs he sure wasn't "bragging" about it. In fact it was the exact opposite. He said its a huge cost and it keeps alot of guys away. He said the rpm is so high now (over 11,500) its impossible to keep the cost down. He said 3 maybe 4 runs on a set f your lucky. Go to the yellowbullet pro stock thread Nick Ferri head engine builder for Elite and the Madcap engine builder (V Gaines) give alot of onsite about pro stock engine. It still amazes me that you can make 1400+ hp and turn 11,000 with a 500" engine.

[randy wilson]

I wouldn't know Charlie if he walked up and slapped me. But my advice to anyone competing against anyone, especially with the track record he has is, LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE!

[mannymen]

Regarding joespanova's comments. He is right. You cannot compare things from 40 plus years ago. It was a much different deal that far back.

You can only go back to about the late 90's (Not the 60's - 80's) during the WJ Pontiac era for a more fair comparison of pro stock contributors . If you weren't in the mix then, then best of luck now. A majority of today's heavy hitters in PS were working as a young buck on most of those teams.

Take a look at Ford entry below. Not good and hasn't been good since Glidden retired the 89-90 red/white Ford Probe. I loved Glidden and Ford, but Ford is dead in the PS ranks. I only care to follow Dave Connolly (the best driving ability on the circuit), as we were all part of the NRP family.


DINWIDDIE, Va. - Final order after 4 rounds of qualifying in Pro Stock at the 4th Annual Pennzoil Nationals Presented by Trak Auto:


Psn-Num-Driver, Home Town, Car Type------------------------------ET---Speed

1 295 Barry Grant, Dahlonega GA, Olds Cutlass 6.926 197.97
2 2 Warren Johnson, Duluth GA, Pont Firebird 6.927 199.24
3 3 Kurt Johnson, Lawrenceville GA, Chevy Camaro 6.931 198.19
4 251 Pete Williams, Cottondale AL, Olds Cutlass 6.932 198.63
5 207 Mike Thomas, Knoxville TN, Pont Firebird 6.934 197.49
6 25 Jeg Coughlin, Columbus OH, Olds Cutlass 6.946 197.71
7 357 Larry Morgan, Newark OH, Chevy Camaro 6.950 197.49
8 1525 John Nobile, Melville NY, Olds Cutlass 6.952 197.71
9 136 Bob Benza, Briarcliff Manor NY, Pont Firebird 6.954 197.49
10 19 Richie Stevens, New Orleans LA, Pont Firebird 6.957 197.06
11 44 Mike Edwards, Broken Arrow OK, Pont Firebird 6.958 197.06
12 5 Steve Schmidt, Indianapolis IN, Pont Firebird 6.962 198.15
13 387 Mark Pawuk, Akron OH, Pont Firebird 6.962 197.41
14 358 Larry Nance, Akron OH, Dodge Avenger 6.969 197.67
15 244 Mark Osborne, Abingdon VA, Pont Firebird 6.974 197.49
16 6 Tom Martino, Farmingdale NJ, Pont Firebird 6.974 196.72

--------- Not Qualified ---------

17 398 Darrell Alderman, Morehead KY, Dodge Avenger 6.975 197.84
18 8 Troy Coughlin, Columbus OH, Olds Cutlass 6.980 197.15
19 7 George Marnell, Las Vegas NV, Pont Firebird 6.980 196.03
20 368 Ray Franks, New Carlisle OH, Pont Firebird 6.982 198.01
21 1 Jim Yates, Alexandria VA, Pont Firebird 6.986 196.37
22 4 Bruce Allen, Arlington TX, Pont Firebird 6.989 197.19
23 262 Robert Patrick, Fredricksburg VA, Ford Probe 6.992 197.32
24 55 V. Gaines, Lakewood CO, Pont Firebird 6.993 196.54
25 11 Scott Geoffrion, SJ Capistrano CA, Dodge Avenger 6.997 197.06
26 20 Shawn Collins, Glen Allen VA, Pont Firebird 7.010 196.27
27 351 Ron Krisher, Warren OH, Pont Firebird 7.022 196.46
28 412 Arturo Delgado, McAllen TX, Pont Firebird 7.031 196.46
29 211 Grant Lewis, Jesup GA, Pont Firebird 7.043 196.33
30 270 Allen Johnson, Greeneville TN, Dodge Avenger 7.043 195.05
31 233 Greg Anderson, Jacksonville NC, Pont Firebird 7.059 195.01
32 150 Kenny Delco, Centereach NY, Olds Cutlass 7.105 194.63
33 200 Vince Khoury, Harrison Twp. MI, Pont Firebird 7.133 193.09