"Live" from the IHRA World Finals at Memphis International R

[John Duzac]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Regular points race, in Texas, they announced no heads up races. Therefore no need to worry about the scales either. Heck, just call it a bracket race. That was my last IHRA race.

Who would complain about having heads up races? No real racer. That is the normal way Super Stock is run.

Ed I Agree with everything you said. No heads up tells me no one wants to work on their cars and actually have a race. I wish it would go back to the way it was back in the 1970's. No reaction time and they ran off the records. You had to win class just to get in the eliminations. Imagine that, a real race.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by John Duzac

Ed I Agree with everything you said. No heads up tells me no one wants to work on their cars and actually have a race. I wish it would go back to the way it was back in the 1970's. No reaction time and they ran off the records. You had to win class just to get in the eliminations. Imagine that, a real race.

Yep! The records were hard enough, that not everybody could run the record all the time. Some never could. I won a couple of divisional races running a tenth off the record, still the fastest car there that day. Jack Mullins' Pontiac wagon was the first one I can remember being able to usually run under.
Bad thing was, when bracket racing came along the guys that didn't want to work hard to get faster just went bracket racing. We ended up with very low car counts. Guess not everybody is wired to race that hard.

[Another Friendly Racer]

Ed is obviously missing the point of why IHRA does not have heads up in their championship event. Way to highjack this thread with your personal vendetta. You always have a million reasons why you don't want to race and think of your opinions as gold. I don't know who you think you are to go around saying who is a "real racer" and who is not.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer

You always have a million reasons why you don't want to race and think of your opinions as gold. I don't know who you think you are to go around saying who is a "real racer" and who is not.

This from a guy who hides behind his keyboard, attacks people for their opinions and then refuses to put a name to his comments... Classic

Ed is completely right here. IHRA is a Bracket race. And that’s fine. They put on a good multi-class bracket race. But they have zero clue what stock and super stock is. From the head of tech to the dude working the scales. They don't have a clue why we have these rules. The S/SS car counts vs the other classes prove that. I can bring my Stocker to a local bracket race, and if I happen to win, call myself the S/SS combo winner, but everyone knows I just won a bracket race. That is exactly what’s going on here. It’s a Bracket 1 and 2 world championship, and that’s quite an accomplishment. But its not Stock or Super Stock. Playing the Ladder is a skill of a S/SS racer. Heads up runs is the main thing that separates us from bracket racing. You take those away and you have a Bracket race.

I was a heavy player in IHRA just a short time ago, but they lost me when these 3 things happened in 1 weekend a couple years ago. I'd rather go to a bracket race where there is more return vs entry if I win. In fact, you would be better off entering you stocker in the et bracket class at these IHRA events, Its half the entry for the same payout

#1 The official running the scales tells me not to worry about weight because we qualify on reaction time. Can somebody please tell him why he's out there if that’s the case

#2 A good friend went up for first round and ran a car dialed 2 tenths over the index. My buddy tries to tell the starter but they just send him down. My buddy loses. He goes up to the tower to point out the rule and the Director tells him it’s up to the guy who dialed above his index to make the decision for a rerun. In case you guys don't know, you can’t change your dial on a rerun either, so how does that fix anything? The other guy should have lost, You cannot dial over the index, but when the Director has no idea, that’s what you get. My buddy packed his stuff up, and so did I

#3 I went to the Tower to inform them that 3 cars were claiming the wrong HP because they got HP 1 month previous. Turns out, The Director couldn't do anything because the Head of Tech decided to put 2001 Camaro as the one who got HP in the book (which is a joke if you ever looked at it). These other racers were able to slide that and claim 99, 00 or 02 model year or they had a firebird. So they gained bye runs because the head of tech doesn't have a clue.

Like I said, Head of Tech to the dude working the scales. NO CLUE why we have these rules. But they put on a Good bracket race. Just turns out I'm not a bracket racer and I enjoy the rules, so I've never been back and won't go until they start grasping the concept. Its not just the finals thats run as a Bracket race. It's the whole season.

[Hagen Gary]

BTW, did they run this thing last night? Who won?

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

its on live stream right now. Mark & Joanne do a great job this year covering these races MMTV is great coverage for sure
http://new.livestream.com/motormaniatv2

[HR9121]

Hagen I believe it was a wash didn't quite finish 1st round. Everyone knows IHRA is second fiddle like you said nothing much more than a bracket race the problem I have is with people who continue to bash it even though they are through with it, I don't care what he thinks of IHRA and I'm tired of hearing it but to imply someone is not a real racer is unjustified.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Hagen I believe it was a wash didn't quite finish 1st round. Everyone knows IHRA is second fiddle like you said nothing much more than a bracket race the problem I have is with people who continue to bash it even though they are through with it, I don't care what he thinks of IHRA and I'm tired of hearing it but to imply someone is not a real racer is unjustified.

Ed probably ment to say no "S/SS" Racer would complain about heads up. Thats what he ment by "Real". You got to give these old guys a break on this social media. I'm 100% sure he didn't mean that bracket racers arn't real racers. There is no doubt IHRA does a good job at putting on a Bracket race. If thats what you are into, Its all for you. It's just not for most of the NHRA S/SS racers. Ed is just simply saying what I am. This is not really Stock or Super Stock racing in its true form. I'm gonna tune in and watch it live anyway because I'm still interested in who wins.

[Larry Hill]

Treekiller what a great Idea sign me up in my old truck!

How does that go, be careful what you wish for?