"Live" from the IHRA World Finals at Memphis International R

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer

You always have a million reasons why you don't want to race and think of your opinions as gold. I don't know who you think you are to go around saying who is a "real racer" and who is not.

This from a guy who hides behind his keyboard, attacks people for their opinions and then refuses to put a name to his comments... Classic

Ed is completely right here. IHRA is a Bracket race. And that’s fine. They put on a good multi-class bracket race. But they have zero clue what stock and super stock is. From the head of tech to the dude working the scales. They don't have a clue why we have these rules. The S/SS car counts vs the other classes prove that. I can bring my Stocker to a local bracket race, and if I happen to win, call myself the S/SS combo winner, but everyone knows I just won a bracket race. That is exactly what’s going on here. It’s a Bracket 1 and 2 world championship, and that’s quite an accomplishment. But its not Stock or Super Stock. Playing the Ladder is a skill of a S/SS racer. Heads up runs is the main thing that separates us from bracket racing. You take those away and you have a Bracket race.

I was a heavy player in IHRA just a short time ago, but they lost me when these 3 things happened in 1 weekend a couple years ago. I'd rather go to a bracket race where there is more return vs entry if I win. In fact, you would be better off entering you stocker in the et bracket class at these IHRA events, Its half the entry for the same payout

#1 The official running the scales tells me not to worry about weight because we qualify on reaction time. Can somebody please tell him why he's out there if that’s the case

#2 A good friend went up for first round and ran a car dialed 2 tenths over the index. My buddy tries to tell the starter but they just send him down. My buddy loses. He goes up to the tower to point out the rule and the Director tells him it’s up to the guy who dialed above his index to make the decision for a rerun. In case you guys don't know, you can’t change your dial on a rerun either, so how does that fix anything? The other guy should have lost, You cannot dial over the index, but when the Director has no idea, that’s what you get. My buddy packed his stuff up, and so did I

#3 I went to the Tower to inform them that 3 cars were claiming the wrong HP because they got HP 1 month previous. Turns out, The Director couldn't do anything because the Head of Tech decided to put 2001 Camaro as the one who got HP in the book (which is a joke if you ever looked at it). These other racers were able to slide that and claim 99, 00 or 02 model year or they had a firebird. So they gained bye runs because the head of tech doesn't have a clue.

Like I said, Head of Tech to the dude working the scales. NO CLUE why we have these rules. But they put on a Good bracket race. Just turns out I'm not a bracket racer and I enjoy the rules, so I've never been back and won't go until they start grasping the concept. Its not just the finals thats run as a Bracket race. It's the whole season.

[Hagen Gary]

BTW, did they run this thing last night? Who won?

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

its on live stream right now. Mark & Joanne do a great job this year covering these races MMTV is great coverage for sure
http://new.livestream.com/motormaniatv2

[HR9121]

Hagen I believe it was a wash didn't quite finish 1st round. Everyone knows IHRA is second fiddle like you said nothing much more than a bracket race the problem I have is with people who continue to bash it even though they are through with it, I don't care what he thinks of IHRA and I'm tired of hearing it but to imply someone is not a real racer is unjustified.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Hagen I believe it was a wash didn't quite finish 1st round. Everyone knows IHRA is second fiddle like you said nothing much more than a bracket race the problem I have is with people who continue to bash it even though they are through with it, I don't care what he thinks of IHRA and I'm tired of hearing it but to imply someone is not a real racer is unjustified.

Ed probably ment to say no "S/SS" Racer would complain about heads up. Thats what he ment by "Real". You got to give these old guys a break on this social media. I'm 100% sure he didn't mean that bracket racers arn't real racers. There is no doubt IHRA does a good job at putting on a Bracket race. If thats what you are into, Its all for you. It's just not for most of the NHRA S/SS racers. Ed is just simply saying what I am. This is not really Stock or Super Stock racing in its true form. I'm gonna tune in and watch it live anyway because I'm still interested in who wins.

[HR9121]

It is what it is, I will run both sanctions and most definitely would run more NHRA but it is hard to take that much time away from home for me. The only IHRA race I've been to that didn't have heads up was the TOC and the short lived Sportsman Spectacular races.
I'm all about class racing in its truest form but I still can understand the theory of not having heads up runs in the TOC the way the format is set. If you were someone like Cooter Hidalgo and dominated the whole year and someone showed up with a borrowed car at the TOC and was all the sudden 2 tenths faster how would that be fair to him. Just my opinion.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by HR9121

It is what it is, I will run both sanctions and most definitely would run more NHRA but it is hard to take that much time away from home for me. The only IHRA race I've been to that didn't have heads up was the TOC and the short lived Sportsman Spectacular races.
I'm all about class racing in its truest form but I still can understand the theory of not having heads up runs in the TOC the way the format is set. If you were someone like Cooter Hidalgo and dominated the whole year and someone showed up with a borrowed car at the TOC and was all the sudden 2 tenths faster how would that be fair to him. Just my opinion.

Easy fix for someone like him who is a good S/SS racer. Don't tech in till that dude does. Then don't get in his class. It's the exact same thing anyone would do at a regular race. Dodge the fast guy. That's part of S/SS. Either get out of his class, or play the ladder to avoid.

[MR DERBY CITY]

I am not bashing IHRA but, stk /sis is a heads up eliminator....PERIOD. One way for IHRA to fix this nonsense, The car you earned your points in is the car you bring to Memphis....Period !!!!If you earned your points in two different cars ,you can bring either car.Very Simple. Hagen Gary ,I like your attitude.Ed, you are definately old school...but what is wrong with that. .Jeremy,aka Another Friendly Racer...you need to stop pissing people off....LOL!!! Regards...M.J.

[Sean Cour]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

I am not bashing IHRA but, stk /sis is a heads up eliminator....PERIOD. One way for IHRA to fix this nonsense, The car you earned your points in is the car you bring to Memphis....Period !!!!If you earned your points in two different cars ,you can bring either car.Very Simple. Hagen Gary ,I like your attitude.Ed, you are definately old school...but what is wrong with that. .Jeremy,aka Another Friendly Racer...you need to stop pissing people off....LOL!!! Regards...M.J.

Very well said, MJ!

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

I am not bashing IHRA but, stk /sis is a heads up eliminator....PERIOD. One way for IHRA to fix this nonsense, The car you earned your points in is the car you bring to Memphis....Period !!!!If you earned your points in two different cars ,you can bring either car.Very Simple. Hagen Gary ,I like your attitude.Ed, you are definately old school...but what is wrong with that. .Jeremy,aka Another Friendly Racer...you need to stop pissing people off....LOL!!! Regards...M.J.

I'll x2 that.