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Old 11-10-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
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Also, no one is trying to "Convert" anyone. No one's trying to get cars to leave one class for another. The thought was to get parked cars possibly back.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:59 PM   #2
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Thought is that some people are sitting out racing because the costs are out of line. Maybe someone new might pick up an old modified or SS chassis and start here instead of fearing the 30K motor SS motors we now have...
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:16 PM   #3
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I'm not in any position to join in on this, but I really hope you guys get some interest. It would be a very entertaining deal to spectate!
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:44 PM   #4
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Default Re: Entry Level SS(MOD) rules proposed

With the spec heads listed it looks like Brodix would be sponsoring the class. Also , the valve size eliminates the Cleveland Ford along with the spec head.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:02 PM   #5
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The spec heads listed flow virtually the same. Hence the lower cost, and not searching for the latest trick of the week. The whole reason why it works in other forms of racing.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:41 PM   #6
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Out of line costs this are certainly an issue, however not sure it's the cost of building the engines that's the biggest issue. You can easily find a decent piece on the cheap (outdated comp or S/S engine) that will get you in the game. The real issue is the game. The expenses have increased, entry fees, fuel and travel costs, this and that new rule, chassis certs, physicals, seat belts, lic. fees, lost work days (3 day points meets). There will always be some that will do it no matter the costs, just look around the pits at the new cars and combos, however most are current racers. Some merely shrugged their shoulders and went to the next race, while some chose to maybe skip this or that race and eventually found themselves parked for any number of reasons from lack of money, desire, or other interests. The next generation, isn't exactly beating down the door, except for a few 2nd or even 3rd generation racers, it's pretty lean as far as new blood. The reason is easily found, just go to your local race track and talk to the racers, explain the classes, rules, expenses, and payout and watch their faces. Most of the Next generation have little interest (other than the idea of just driving one) in class racing, it just doesn't make sense financially. Most all the "kids" I know plan their racing on the PAYOUT that is the first thing they concern themselves with, with location and entry fee being the 2nd and 3rd. It's obvious that you're looking for a way to increase participation but in my opinion you will not lure new or parked racers by bringing back 20 year old rules. My 2 cents
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:54 PM   #7
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I can only imaging policing the ceramic rear end bearings.
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:29 PM   #8
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it was just a thought Ed. Nothing more. To those who want it to happen, it won't happen overnight. To those who don't want it to happen, don't run it. Real simple. It may never happen, but what the heck. It ain't 20 year old technology. It's just cutting back on the technology allowed. Some don't want it because they like what they're doing now. I say Fine. Some don't like it because they would have a hard time without today's technology. But I can't for the life of me figure out why the ones who don't want a class like this, really care if there is one.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:12 PM   #9
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This sounds like it would be cheaper than a full-effort super-stocker, but maybe more expensive than a stocker. I have an old friend who still has his 331" Truppi-Kling engine from a B/SM he raced in the late 1970's. Throw on a set of spec heads, and he could be back in business for a while, although clearly not the fastest in the class.

This might get some traction with one of the sanctions if Brodix offered to partially sponsor the class. If they put up contingency money, every winner in the class would be eligible, since they are required to use their product. Brodix would not only sell heads to the participants, but also to bracket racers and aspirationals who run what they can afford now, but hope to try class racing one day. (Dave Ley's post went up while I was slowly typing this)

So, is that 3,000 lbs with driver?
What track is running the class now?
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