Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW!

Earle Holt · 10-27-2007, 01:25 PM

Stockracer I agree. Why is it so obvious but nothing has been done about it? Maybe something will change for '08.

Earle Holt · 10-27-2007, 01:28 PM

The fact that the same car can go 1.10 under at sea level, travel to Vegas, run slower but qualify 1.30 under, doesn't make sense.

bsa633 · 10-27-2007, 01:33 PM

Why Do No One Bitch When The Air Is Good At Atco? I think it's stupid to give horsepower for good conditions,dont you all?the thing is they know they dont get horsepower at vegas and can let it all hang out..they wont do that att sealevel....AHFS!!!!!!

Isaac Zane · 10-27-2007, 01:44 PM

Nobody b!tches when the air is good at Atco because they are busy crying cause they have HP coming their way.

I'll b!tch about good air at Atco, Englishtown and Gainesville as we have gotten HP added because of runs that were -1.18. And we have never won a round of class at Indy.

If factors are good enough for records, they should be good enough for AHFS. If not, FIX'M!!

Happy now?

Earle Holt · 10-27-2007, 02:10 PM

Amen Isaac! You just can't argue with common sense.

Jeff Lee · 10-27-2007, 02:46 PM

I'll bet what you are seeing is the real potential in a lot of these cars. In other words, less sandbagging. Like I said, some of these runs are for the history books as indexes are dropping and if GT absorbs SS class cars next year then this may be the last days of SS designated cars.
Really guys, they've had altitude corrected tracks for 30+ years. The factors were in place before 99% of you started racing. Can you get over it?
Now congratulations for all of the racers that aren't SAND-BAGGIN' IT AND RUNNING SO STRONG!!!

Dave Ribeiro · 10-27-2007, 03:18 PM

Jeff,

You are still missing the point !!! No- HP, no-records and no-factors.. Why should one part of the country be handicapped and the other isn't.. You do know when it's below sea-level we still get FACTORED,when your weather is good you get records and no-HP !!! What a bunch of BS..
How can this happen and why isn't changed ???? Jeff, hope you are doing well and why aren't you their flying................ Dave...1033/stock(350ci)

Bill Belden · 10-27-2007, 03:19 PM

And that is the problem Jeff, the factors are over 30 years old

RPinoski1 · 10-27-2007, 03:20 PM

If they used the conversion factor back to Sea Level that is listed on the correction page the runs could be used. After reading the AHFS on the NHRA website, it really makes no mention of altitude tracks being excluded for the system. Although I do know that they are. Is this because it takes extra work to convert the numbers? Huummmmmmmmm

10-27-2007, 01:25 PM	#1
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! Stockracer I agree. Why is it so obvious but nothing has been done about it? Maybe something will change for '08. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

10-27-2007, 01:28 PM	#2
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! The fact that the same car can go 1.10 under at sea level, travel to Vegas, run slower but qualify 1.30 under, doesn't make sense. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

10-27-2007, 01:33 PM	#3
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! Why Do No One Bitch When The Air Is Good At Atco? I think it's stupid to give horsepower for good conditions,dont you all?the thing is they know they dont get horsepower at vegas and can let it all hang out..they wont do that att sealevel....AHFS!!!!!! Last edited by bsa633; 10-27-2007 at 01:40 PM.

10-27-2007, 01:44 PM	#4
Isaac Zane Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 361 Likes: 392 Liked 50 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! Nobody b!tches when the air is good at Atco because they are busy crying cause they have HP coming their way. I'll b!tch about good air at Atco, Englishtown and Gainesville as we have gotten HP added because of runs that were -1.18. And we have never won a round of class at Indy. If factors are good enough for records, they should be good enough for AHFS. If not, FIX'M!! Happy now? __________________ Isaac Zane STK 1237 J/SA Buick Apollo Patriot Guard Rider DOOF 43

10-27-2007, 02:10 PM	#5
Earle Holt Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 194 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! Amen Isaac! You just can't argue with common sense. __________________ Earle Holt 1055 Stock

10-27-2007, 02:46 PM	#6
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! I'll bet what you are seeing is the real potential in a lot of these cars. In other words, less sandbagging. Like I said, some of these runs are for the history books as indexes are dropping and if GT absorbs SS class cars next year then this may be the last days of SS designated cars. Really guys, they've had altitude corrected tracks for 30+ years. The factors were in place before 99% of you started racing. Can you get over it? Now congratulations for all of the racers that aren't SAND-BAGGIN' IT AND RUNNING SO STRONG!!! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

10-27-2007, 03:18 PM	#7
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! Jeff, You are still missing the point !!! No- HP, no-records and no-factors.. Why should one part of the country be handicapped and the other isn't.. You do know when it's below sea-level we still get FACTORED,when your weather is good you get records and no-HP !!! What a bunch of BS.. How can this happen and why isn't changed ???? Jeff, hope you are doing well and why aren't you their flying................ Dave...1033/stock(350ci) __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

10-27-2007, 03:19 PM	#8
Bill Belden Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: York, PA Posts: 241 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! And that is the problem Jeff, the factors are over 30 years old __________________ Bill Belden Retired Stock Eliminator [emailSTK1100@comcast.net[/email]

10-27-2007, 03:20 PM	#9
RPinoski1 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PLACERVILLE, CA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Vegas SS Qualifying - WOW! If they used the conversion factor back to Sea Level that is listed on the correction page the runs could be used. After reading the AHFS on the NHRA website, it really makes no mention of altitude tracks being excluded for the system. Although I do know that they are. Is this because it takes extra work to convert the numbers? Huummmmmmmmm

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