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Old 11-28-2014, 11:43 AM   #1
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Gary, you are my friend, so no disrespect intended.
I have no bones to pick with NHRA or IHRA
But,,,
Your logic is flawed on many levels.
I don't do ROI on racing because It would terrify me.
If I were: Here is what I see.. 2divisionals at $500 min.. 1 National at $600 min =$1600 to race Winters.(maybe)
Combo race $130 plus $100 (days pay) $230.
I think Paula won about 1k and Andy about $600. Plus whatever semis were.
This was 4 rounds with 1 single each.
Car quality
We had many former National and divisional finalists,at least 1 former world champ, numerous current and former national record holders.
Spectators
I spent the day talking to spectators about the slowest car in the field. There were many that were interested in a entry level stocker. They crowded the fences when we ran. We were the show... not filler.
Track prep
Track prep was on as good as or better than National event prep.
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The wildhorse crew were excellent and came by after the race to thank us for coming.
Front page coverage on Arizonaautoscene,com. Mark made sure the show ran smoothly. (very few glitches) One day,one first round and complete before sundown.
For my entertainment dollar I would give this 2 thumbs up. We need more.
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Old 11-30-2014, 08:01 PM   #2
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Disclaimer
Gary, you are my friend, so no disrespect intended.
I have no bones to pick with NHRA or IHRA
But,,,
Your logic is flawed on many levels.
I don't do ROI on racing because It would terrify me.
If I were: Here is what I see.. 2divisionals at $500 min.. 1 National at $600 min =$1600 to race Winters.(maybe)
Combo race $130 plus $100 (days pay) $230.
I think Paula won about 1k and Andy about $600. Plus whatever semis were.
This was 4 rounds with 1 single each.
Car quality
We had many former National and divisional finalists,at least 1 former world champ, numerous current and former national record holders.
Spectators
I spent the day talking to spectators about the slowest car in the field. There were many that were interested in a entry level stocker. They crowded the fences when we ran. We were the show... not filler.
Track prep
Track prep was on as good as or better than National event prep.
Misc
The wildhorse crew were excellent and came by after the race to thank us for coming.
Front page coverage on Arizonaautoscene,com. Mark made sure the show ran smoothly. (very few glitches) One day,one first round and complete before sundown.
For my entertainment dollar I would give this 2 thumbs up. We need more.
Mike, back at you on the friends part but I think you don't completely understand my logic behind my post:

1. My work did need me and it was a sure thing to make money being there, and more (quite a bit) than $100 bucks thanks to overtime pay.

2. Paying $130 bucks for a race that I (no matter how good me and my car ran), could've lost in rnd 1, and I bet there was no pay for the first round runner-ups was there?), wasn't a chance I could afford to take (especially since the race was on a Saturday (right), when I was at work). Hence my roll of the dice comment.

3. The race was only 2wks after the divisional, and that race had national/divisional significance to me. I mainly went to 'Vegas to; a. get another grade point with Pomona in mind, and b. to get some valuable seat time while hanging out with racing buds like Ryan Warter, Marion Stephenson, Cal & Jon Percy, and Dwayne Scheitlin (who I don't get to race with often), and especially Bill O'Connor (whose racing budget is more like mine, than most anyone else who was there), right? I mean after all, how we get to the races, our trailers used, and our on track accommodations while there are as far apart from equal, as is the performance of our cars.

Trust me in that I wish I could have been there, because I like having people talk to me about my Cavalier, and I probably would have had a great time, but unlike most of my fellow racers, I also don't have my racing operation where I live ( the joy of apt. living), nor is it relatively close to me (60 miles), because I can't afford storage space fees (my car also would have no security from other lot space users). I thus have to make sure I can even get to it, since I keep it with a customer of my work. Now if the race fee was $80 total (like Div 5 national opens are), given how closely it was to the divisional, then I more likely would' ve been there. It was too much too soon for my budget....sorry
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:30 PM   #3
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If 50 dollars was the difference between going or not, you should QUIT, and find a more affordable hobby that fits your budget instead of bashing event's that don't fit for you.
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If 50 dollars was the difference between going or not, you should QUIT, and find a more affordable hobby that fits your budget instead of bashing event's that don't fit for you.
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Gary Hampton is a real racer with a real name.
Maybe you should bring it to him mano y mano...
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:55 PM   #5
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If 50 dollars was the difference between going or not, you should QUIT, and find a more affordable hobby that fits your budget instead of bashing event's that don't fit for you.
I don't know who you are "Ruler" (perhaps you'd like to enlighten me with whom you are?)...NOT! My point was made, and thank you Mark for your comment too about the mano y mano. If you "Ruler" have a Stocker and would like to line up with me, BRING IT!!! I had valid reasons for my comments, what is your reason for not disclosing your name, and your race car (if you're even a racer!)?

Well, what is it? I will be waiting to find out....
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