2015 AA/S and AA/SA Could Be Very Exciting

[Dave Ficacci]

Yo Ken - I know you are reading this. You have run AA/CC with your old iron more than anyone since its inception. What's your opinion?

[Ken Miele]

Hey Dave, of course I'm reading this thread. You know me, I try to keep my opinions on Class Racer to a minimum, but since you asked here goes.

I like the 10.60 index for all of the reasons you posted. Its the main reason I run it, no worries about hp and I can run pretty much all out all the time, plus I like going as fast as I can. When it comes to Indy, I just put it in A. Any car that runs 9.80's in AA will have no problem qualifying in A at Indy.

That's my thoughts on it anyway.

[Larry Hill]

This looks like it could be fun be fun at Indy watching all you fast guys!

[Bruce Noland]

9.80's where? An AA car runing in the 9.80's at D1 races would be a 10.0's car at Indy and it would be at best a 10.10 car in A at Indy. I doubt that will get an A car in at Indy next year.

[jimi]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Hey Dave, of course I'm reading this thread. You know me, I try to keep my opinions on Class Racer to a minimum, but since you asked here goes.

I like the 10.60 index for all of the reasons you posted. Its the main reason I run it, no worries about hp and I can run pretty much all out all the time, plus I like going as fast as I can. When it comes to Indy, I just put it in A. Any car that runs 9.80's in AA will have no problem qualifying in A at Indy.

That's my thoughts on it anyway.

dave and ken I agree with both of you , I think the aa index should stay 10.60 maybe 10.65 but no softer. I will be racing aa this year with the 64 hemi and have no problem with the present index. on my third pass with this new combo I went 133.00 mph already. still have rear gears ,transmission and converter to sort out . if I go to indy or any national event I will be bringing the modified s/s car not the stocker . I do not care to race national events with a stock eliminator car. its too much darn work.

[Dave Casey]

Alot of good points here, the most important thing to me is that there seems to be renewed interest in these classes with the change NHRA has made. It will be interesting for sure.

I stated that I thought the indexes should be raised, but it seems those that have posted and run the class are fine with it as it is. It is nice as Ken and Mike stated to be able run your car hard and not worry about HP hits. It really only matters in qualifying at Indy. I don't think NHRA is considering changing those 2 indexes, it was just a point that was brought up in this thread.

[Mike Keener]

I can't believe that you guys want this index left alone so you can have a place to play without risk of getting HP.. Talk about a personal agenda. Guess some of you believe it's real nice to have a quiet practice class of your own with no regard to the interest of a fair and level playing field for racers that may want to have an EQUAL chance of qualifying now that the new cars are out of the picture. Yeah sure. Great idea....

This index should be 10.75 to 10.80 in order to be fair. You all know it, I know it, and so does anyone serious about racing this class for other than a test basin. Dave was being honest when he said 200 pounds was only .18 and he was right on the money! Now that's settled- so where does a 10.60 index find any level of support?

Yo Ken...for the record. NOBODY running 9.80's will qualify at Indy next year in AA. If you recall the the bump at Indy this year was .88.2 under. My math says your 9.80 shot on a 10.60 index would be just good enough to tie with Corda for the NUMBER 157 slot. How's that for going deep in the DNQ dept?

Let's put it this way. There isn't one, not one, traditional Stock Eliminator car in the entire country that even at sea level could possibly trigger a Tuesday morning HP hit. In fact 9.55 to 9.60 ( @ sea level) would be a killer lick in one of these A cars with 200-225 pounds of weight removed from it.

Sorry for the rant guys but your rationale for wanting to leave an unfair index in place so you don't have to worry about the possibility of getting HP is just plain ridiculous.

[Ken Miele]

Mike, I respect your opinion, as I thought you might respect mine without using the agenda card. We all have agenda's, you may feel yours is rational and just, as I feel mine is.

You misread my post about 9.80's in AA. I said, if you can run 9.80's in AA, you should be able to qualify in A at Indy. My combo only looses or gains 15 hundreds when I switch classes. Even in bad air at Indy I can run .95 under or better in A. My best run at Indy in AA in 2010 was 9.88 at 3500 feet. If you ad .15 to my .88 you get 10.03.

I agree it would be almost impossible to qualify in AA at Indy. I understand why you want the index raised and respect it, but for me, one race is no big deal as long as I have options.

Dave F, now you see why I try to keep my opinions to myself.

[John E McLeod]

Mike I totally agree with you we have a a/sa firebird that we would love to run AA but need a fair index. You guys that want a10:60 index must need some hp if you can run that fast. I went to vegas to watch and was amazed how many people were trying to slow their cars down. It was a very boring race to watch with all the guys running so slow. John

[Dave Ficacci]

Originally Posted by John E McLeod

Mike I totally agree with you we have a a/sa firebird that we would love to run AA but need a fair index. You guys that want a10:60 index must need some hp if you can run that fast. I went to vegas to watch and was amazed how many people were trying to slow their cars down. It was a very boring race to watch with all the guys running so slow. John

John you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You state how boring it was to watch racers slowing their cars down which is something you don't have to do today in AA BECAUSE OF THE INDEX, and then in the next breath you say to raise the AA index so the AA cars have to play the same sandbagging game as well?? Makes no sense. If your LS1 wont compete in AA call Wilkes or Mattingly and they'll show you the way.