Stock and SS racers .... interesting, worth reading !

[Jim Bailey]

One easy thing, that could be done, is to not allow hand held programmers in the car during a run. That would make it easier to check the programmable ignition's program at the end of a run. That's a simple plug in transfer to a lap top.

[Mike Taylor 3601]

I may not have the correct terms,this will be in KY hillbilly terms.
I had a customer a few years ago that was doing what the article talks about by accident.
He had mustang sbf turbo running 8.5X26 outlaw class, they ran a low 5.20 and was going down track like was on a string,they tried to step it cranked around 4-5 lbs. more boost in should have blowed tires off or flew,still went low 5.20 like it was on string,took them a while to figure out,that they couldn't go any faster than a low 5.20 until they changed the timing curves in box,everytime car went to spin or rpm went above certain rpm at certain time/point it would yank timing out to keep it within the settings of their baseline low 5.20 pass.
Made changes in ignition box then they could blow tires off and go faster,went 5.0's almost instantly eventually went 4.90 something.
A guy in shop yesterday said dirt track guys run two boxes,when track gets black slick during race they switch boxes.
I'm not sure,I guess you have to hook laptop up to make changes,would be why they use two boxes?
Mike Taylor 3601

[ken robinson]

Thats very interesting . I always ran the no electronic classes ( no 2steps , auto shifters delay boxs , trans brakes ) . But it could be used in a newer stocker efi car .

[Gary Smith]

Wasn't this the basis of the "Terrible Twelve" infractions several years ago that got them "banned" from several tracks and big money brackets? The driveline "slew gauges"???

[Michael Beard]

You need to quote a little further:

Once you leave the line with the trans-brake that signals the uploaded Programmed RPM to Time limits (Slew Rate) to start. If the air is the same as your base run, your car will now be slower because the Slew Rate program will not allow the engine to accelerate faster than your program. To accomplish that, the rev limiter kicks in and out to keep the engine at a certain rate of acceleration

I don't see the need for new rules, just enforce what we've got

You are correct. In addition to the Time Vehicle Controls section, downtrack stutters are expressly prohibited.

Wasn't this the basis of the "Terrible Twelve" infractions several years ago that got them "banned" from several tracks and big money brackets? The driveline "slew gauges"???

"Dirty Dozen." It was a different system, but similar concept.

Cars are so good these days that it doesn't take a lot of adjustment to take them from great to nearly perfect.

[Rob Petrie E395]

All they have to do is enforce the rules that are already in the rule book. Catch 1 or 2 and fine them so hard it ends their racing almost forever. Kind of like they did to Eckman in prostock. The rest will quit or never start for fear of getting caught.

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

You need to quote a little further:





You are correct. In addition to the Time Vehicle Controls section, downtrack stutters are expressly prohibited.

Michael, The author stated "Why is bracket racing the only form of racing without rules?" My statements were to show that we don't need NEW rules to enforce new technology. We already have rules in place to fit this situation. How many wasn't my point but , yes your correct on the downtrack stutters as well.

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