HP Changes Posted, AFHS Changes for 2015

[Mike Carr]

Marty, I would say yes. Only the 1-.200 (excluding FSS) penalty is in effect there, the way I read it.

Bryan, I would agree. Mineshaft for Comp = mineshaft for everyone. But Comp uses -.61 under for the first car in the bottom half (11 in a 20 car field,. 17 in a 32 car field, etc). I'm not sure what number would be fair to use. -.61 would make a lot of races 'mineshaft'. -.85, like you said, only Indy might make that cut and 1-2 others. It took -.882 to MAKE the show at Indy in Stock. Not sure what a fair number would be; maybe -.75. Just some more fun stuff to debate before Pomona.

[Mark Yacavone]

No HP hits at Indy..means no HP hits for factory cars.
Got it ? Good

[LDFJR]

I got it Mark!

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

Marty, I would say yes. Only the 1-.200 (excluding FSS) penalty is in effect there, the way I read it.

Bryan, I would agree. Mineshaft for Comp = mineshaft for everyone. But Comp uses -.61 under for the first car in the bottom half (11 in a 20 car field,. 17 in a 32 car field, etc). I'm not sure what number would be fair to use. -.61 would make a lot of races 'mineshaft'. -.85, like you said, only Indy might make that cut and 1-2 others. It took -.882 to MAKE the show at Indy in Stock. Not sure what a fair number would be; maybe -.75. Just some more fun stuff to debate before Pomona.

What I meant was if the "Mineshaft" conditions are met for Comp at a race, then Stock and Super Stock should be considered mineshaft also. So if that Comp number is -.61, then regardless of what the bottom of the top half runs in Stock and SS, they are still mineshaft. But there would still have to be a minimum number for Stock and SS for when Comp is not contested. I looked at races like the 4 Wides, where there were definitely mineshaft conditions, yet the -.85 number was not hit.

[countrypuppy4865]

Byron, I know super stock is going to be tough. Hopefully they will make a change. This is a step in the right direction. The way I like at it, races like the sports nationals in Belle Rose and some nationals with class will benefit. Last year the split for stock at Belle Rose was - .817. I think some people that may have not wanted to try for class to avoid triggers may turn it up and it may raise the numbers a bit to make more races "mineshaft."

[goinbroke2]

No change in Stock for Ford 300 150 190 1993 F-150
I Realise nobody is running it, but 190hp for an inline 6?

Too bad, would be interesting.

[Doug McCue]

I give up on HP changes.

[Ed Wright]

http://www.nhraracer.com/apcm/APCMvi...?a=61904&z=132

Try this^

[Kevin Panzino]

Why wouldn't the 'mineshaft' conditions trigger, just simply be when there actually are mineshaft weather conditions, and not have anything to do with the top spot of the bottom half of the ladder, or what any car runs for that matter????

Like, anything less than 250' D/A is mineshaft ??

[SStockDart]

Mineshaft conditions are something that we are not familiar with..... (out west)

Most tracks are not corrected, or corrected less than they should be. Phoenix is 1,060 ft and uncorrected, Las Vegas is 2,000 plus and corrected minimally. Fontana is not corrected and should be. The only track that could be considered "mine shaft" is Pomona.....and it is over 1,000 ft, but down hill. The difference between Fontana and Atco is probabably 3-4 tenths for our SuperStock car. I am not bitch--ng....everyone runs the same conditions. But....since I am retiring from racing....and going to sell our Dart...the question I get is "how fast have you gone"....well, we have gone 9.85 (unimpressive)....however, it would go 9.60 in the east coast.....la la la la