New Indexs are up

[SPS]

Lot of stuff here to look at.
I'll start with the stick vs automatic at the same index.

Look at the super mod and mod class rules. The automatics get a 5% reduction in weight over a similarly classed stick car.
This rule has been in effect for years and was refined to this point to be competitive for both.
Heck, I'm probably one of the only guys that ever did this test back to back on the same day and track. And that was with a manual shifted trans.
A monkey can drive a clutchless, so the 5% may not be enough, but it sure would be a good place to start.

NHRA appears to be blind to this minor change that would satisfy all. Especially before the smart guys all buy clutchless 5 speeds and make the others look dumb.

I also think the "automatic factoring" system is broken.
No way there should be such a spread in hp between the stick and auto combos.
The motor on the dyno has absolutely no idea which car its going into and what trans is being used.
HP is HP. Simple .
When the powers in charge get some real data (flow testing and dyno figures), then and only then will you have real data to go by.

Yea, I'm only dreaming......but it will be the correct way to factor all motors.
Then the guy who works the hardest and gets results should and will be the fastest. (theoretically speaking).

Oh, yea....take the damn 1000' numbers off the time tickets too.
No more game players.

FJ

[Michael Beard]

Thank you for your post, FJ.


And Mark Howes writes:

No weight break in SS/AH either

Good point. Again, my question would be, should SS/AH also have a weight break for automatics, OR should the weight break be eliminated for the other categories that run sticks and autos combined? I honestly don't care which way it is -- just that the same rules are applied to everyone in the same circumstances. Combine us and hit the auto indexes with no weight break? Fine. Just do it to everyone else, too.

At least in Stock, a quick study of Nitro Joe's Drag Racing Stats (get your subscription at www.nitrojoes.com!) shows that the vast majority of top runners in sticks vs automatics of the same class run about the same E.T.'s (despite the differences in Indexes). Well? If it's good enough for us, why not combine them all? (That being said, Super Stock is all over the map... and not nearly as much data) Less Class trophies, and more potential heads-up runs. Have at it.

If you argues for one thing in one case, you need to argue for it in all cases. If you argue against something in one case, you need to argue against it in all cases.

$.02,

[SS Engine Guy]

Take 3 tenths off the index. That should cure everything. And don't tear anybody down. And let the racers control their own hp ratings with slow runs....etc...etc...

[Jack McCarthy]

you can tell is february jeff's all full of pent up sarcasm, hell he hasnt had an event to relax at for a month or two....

this is some funny **** !

captain jack

and im going to offer once again to you guys in them go fast cars
> anyone want some of this -2.20 caddy or -1.75 mustang II ????

spring is on its way

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

you can tell is february jeff's all full of pent up sarcasm, hell he hasnt had an event to relax at for a month or two....

this is some funny **** !

captain jack

and im going to offer once again to you guys in them go fast cars
> anyone want some of this -2.20 caddy or -1.75 mustang II ????

spring is on its way

He keeps me entertained. :-)