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[quote=SSGT Mustang;462360][QUOTE=SS Engine Guy;462350]Take that driving is a privilege statement and see how it holds up in a court with a real lawyer. Operating a motor vehicle in a licensed and legal manner is a right as a tax paying (which built the road) citizen. [QUOTE]
Taxpayers own the statehouse, the Whitehouse, whatever. Doesn't mean you can move in or take a piss on the stairs. You do not have a right to drive. It is a privilege. It can be taken away any time the states wants to. Whether they do or not is irrelevant.[Quote] What the "state" takes away can be overturned by a higher court. All this "politically correct" BS is why we are even talking about this. And while studying up on the law keep in mind that you are only entitled to as much justice as you can afford. Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 02-18-2015 at 08:14 PM. |
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I agree. Sad but true.
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This is real simple. There were people appearing on the show with NHRA class designations and NHRA competition numbers prominently displayed on their cars, and using their real names. NHRA told them that it was unacceptable to do so. NHRA is well within their rights to do so.
The solution is real simple, too. If you want to appear on the show, simply remove all of your class designations and competition numbers, as well as your name on the car if it is there, and don't use your real name. I don't often agree with a lot of things NHRA does, but this is well within their rights. They have a right to choose who and what their "brand" is associated with. Like it or not, the competition number and class designation is part of their "brand".
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Alan you hit it dead on.
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WOW...........................
I would take the numbers off of the car, but I happen to own my name...... How about this being the first step....... Get a DUI, no racing..... Get into a chargeable accident, no racing........... People just don't get it....... Celebrities’ are PAID to maintain a public image and have contracts that demand it.... Has NHRA paid you or have you signed a contract to allow them to regulate your conduct away from the track and withhold money if they wish?????????????/ As for NHRA numbers.....What do IHRA and other --RA numbers look like.... Maybe NHRA should have sent an announcement out that if you appear on a show that has national attention (good or bad) that any connection with NHRA should be eliminated???????????/ Spit in the street and turn in your NHRA license.... All I can say is that the ones who get it, get it and the ones that don't, don't……… WOW
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You have to have a valid driver's license to race so anything you do to lose that will keep you from racing.
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NHRA is an association that you join voluntarily, to participate in a hobby for your enjoyment. There are no "rights" associated with that, other than those you agree to when you sign up and pay your dues. Just like any other association of that type, they can tell you that they don't want you around based on your behavior. You do not have the "right" to make NHRA take your money, grant you membership, and allow you to compete.
If you think you have the "right" to force NHRA to accept you and your behavior regardless of their desires, you are the one who does not get it. Again, if you think I'm a "fan boy" of NHRA, think again. I'm fairly well known for telling them exactly what I think, and where I think they are wrong, in person, on the phone, via email, and in public forums. Oh, NHRA has nothing to gain from advertising on the show in question, and the last thing the show wants is to be "legitimized".
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Well...the California Supreme Court has held that driving a motor vehicle on the public highways is a privilege, not a fundamental Constitutional right. I don't think you'll find too many lawyers that will argue with them about it. I don't know if other states are different, but I highly doubt it.
(Hernandez v. Department of Motor Vehicles (1981) 30 Cal.3d 70, 80–84, 177 Cal.Rptr. 566, 634 P.2d 917.)
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I`ve known people that were able to race without a state driver`s license but were able to compete due to a current NHRA Competition license. Not making that up.
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I've read this thread and most of you guys are totally off base. These actions and letters are not about you or controlling you. They are a statement of NHRA's position in this matter. First read Dwights posts. They are correct. Here's why. The most valuable asset NHRA has is their non profit designation. That was issued by the IRS because of their declaration of purpose... To educate people about automotive/vehicle safety. Any threat to that standing is a threat to NHRA's existence, at least as we know it. As a result they cannot and will not be associated (in any way shape or form) with high risk, illegal street racing. They can, must and will distant themselves from any illegal activity (especially street racing) and anyone associated with it. Someday something very unpleasant will come out of SO. When it does the attorneys will go after everyone, especially those with deep pockets. (NHRA) Their current actions are a legal issue and not directed at you as a racer. They can't afford to be remotely associated with street racing or anyone who participates.
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