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Old 03-19-2015, 07:01 AM   #1
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Ok, I have apparently checked everywhere except the right place. I want to find the nhra link/rule that states the FS/X cars are exempt from the ahfs. I know they are exempt but want to see it in writing.
I would be surprised if you find that anywhere in print or on their site.

I have looked and have never found it.
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Thanks Alan. Wonder why they have not put it in writing?

Jeff, you must have something in writing about the rules for these cars. I believe you were the first to post that they were exempt from the ahfs. Please share that information with us. I'm working on a new project and also need to know who gave the FS/X cars the exemption.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:53 PM   #3
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Bruce:
I think it's one of those "we don't talk about it" deals for NHRA.

Too bad tho.

Just my opinion here, but I believe it is the one final change NHRA needs to make in Stock Eliminator right now.

Either make every Stocker exempt from AHFS at every event where the F/S cars are exempt, or make the AHFS apply to F/S cars all the time.

I like to watch the F/S cars run, but to allow them to run 1.2x-plus under index without any penalty while the traditional Stockers are penalized for going too quick is just...

Just my opinion.
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Default Re: nhra info on the FS/X Classes?

The Factory Stock cars are subject to HP
Factory Shootout Entries are not subject to HP
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The only FS cars that are not subject to the AHFS are the Shootout cars (FS/X and FS/XX).
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:07 PM   #6
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They are exempt as per a nhra staff member in Glendora. I could get only an email confirmation, no published rule appears to be available. I have been told that an email confirmation from nhra is good enough for our purposes. More to come.
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The Factory Stock cars are subject to HP
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Does any of the runs by the Shootout cars go towards their qualifying spot in the regular Stock qualifying sheet ?
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Does any of the runs by the Shootout cars go towards their qualifying spot in the regular Stock qualifying sheet ?
Yes, and that is the problem. Look at 2014 Indy or last week's Gators. They can come in and bomb the sheets and never suffer the consequences like the regular class Stockers. They should be in their own eliminator. Let them run and gun all they want but they should not be dumping on all the other cars because they are not subject to the same rules as Stock Eliminator.
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Yes, and that is the problem. Look at 2014 Indy or last week's Gators. They can come in and bomb the sheets and never suffer the consequences like the regular class Stockers. They should be in their own eliminator. Let them run and gun all they want but they should not be dumping on all the other cars because they are not subject to the same rules as Stock Eliminator.
I thought that was what happened at Indy.

I like the idea of the shootouts a few times a year, but those runs should be totally separate from the regular qualifying runs in Stock.

Or....create a new class and just put the shootout cars in Factory Experimental.
Problem solved.
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Yes, and that is the problem. Look at 2014 Indy or last week's Gators. They can come in and bomb the sheets and never suffer the consequences like the regular class Stockers. They should be in their own eliminator. Let them run and gun all they want but they should not be dumping on all the other cars because they are not subject to the same rules as Stock Eliminator.
Both at Indy and this years Gators the outcome would not have been different if the AHFS rules were in effect for the FS/X cars .The race winner would still have won and the number one qualifier would still be number one- and BTW - lets not forget that a 'new' car won both events with just good 'ole great driving and performance meant nothing. And since old cars no longer race new ones head-up what would be changed ? Maybe you'd see more 1000' racing but who wants that ..........I know I'm gonna hate myself for posting this but its a slow Friday here in Pennsylvania with plenty of snow falling so a little Internet jousting might help the day pass .Bring it on kids - I've got all afternoon ...............
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