Apparently Div7 has more than 1 rule book !!!

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by MW7670

It has come to my attention that it's ok to leave your ICE baggies on your engine during a heads-up round of eliminations and then let the track staff pick them up off the track. I thought even though I got out ran that there was a kind of rule that says you can't Blatantly have crap falling off your car. I understand if a bolt falls off but that's usually a accident.

A post like this deserves more detail. Did the losing car have a chance or not? Or was this third hand info dumped on the Internet by someone.....

[Stephen Hughes]

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r=100#indextop

[Mark Yacavone]

That's pretty much what I saw on Ustream.
The announcer even made that comment.
Super Street (Brian Griffey ) had to wait while this went on.

[stocker396]

It depends on your last name..AND If you happen to be sponsoring a race at that particular track: A year or so ago (my memory forgets the EXACT Race) Mr Biondo had the same thing happen Nada came of it, The VERY Next event a racer had the same thing happened (Mr McGann) and got DQed. BOTH races were in Division 7. Some people just get "its Ok"
I also saw the same thing on Ustream. a BLATANT infraction!
in my opinion Mr Williams got robbed.

[B Aceves]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

A post like this deserves more detail. Did the losing car have a chance or not? Or was this third hand info dumped on the Internet by someone.....

So your saying I'f the losing car has no chance than it should not matter ??
one of the reasons i hate posting on this site is because of responses like this ...
it's coming directly from a damn good racer who was in the other lane.
and to say I'f the loosing car has no chance makes a difference ?? Huh
are you even a racer ??

[MW7670]

Troy city boy, your right I did get out ran and that's a fact and I honestly don't post crap to often but rules are rules and racers bring this to my attention that **** is falling off the other car and was blatantly left there then I'm saying why do we have rules. It's clear that all this stuff used for a heads up is to be removed before going to the water box.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by MW7670

Troy city boy, your right I did get out ran and that's a fact and I honestly don't post crap to often but rules are rules and racers bring this to my attention that **** is falling off the other car and was blatantly left there then I'm saying why do we have rules. It's clear that all this stuff used for a heads up is to be removed before going to the water box.

That's a damn shame, that run was for a bye to the finals. If it was me I can guarantee you that I would have left that track in handcuffs. You would think a racer with that much experience would have known not to leave any loose ballast (bag of ice) in the car.
I don't think that would have flown in Div. 1 but that's just my opinion. I really feel for you.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Bob Aceves, I assure you that James Schaechter is indeed a racer. Unfortunately with NHRA ,rule enforcement varies within the 7 Divisions. As far as Division 7 turning a blind eye to this heads up run.......What happens in Vegas.stays in Vegas....M.J.

[Jim Kaekel]

Sad deal...should have been a DQ. Particularly since NHRA has posted reminders about removing ice before a race.

[MW7670]

Hey Schaechter, first of all, the post maybe vague in your opinion and that's fine. The Division Director was confronted and that was a big waste of time in my life that I'll never get back. Mr. Aceves is correct when he asked if it mattered if the slower car had a chance and should it make a difference. Well in this case it DID. Had I been a little slower and that S**t hit my car all HELL would've broke loose and I'm DIV7 wouldn't have covered the damages. Dry Ice could've done some real damage. I also have seen doors, hoods, driveshafts fall off and that's not something deliberately done. In this case, I saw nothing while racing down track, which means I wasn't too far behind. This issue was brought to my attention by MANY creditable racers who watched this at the track or by the Live Internet stream. They all thought and said that I should be reinstated because debris deliberately had fallen onto the track. Hell it took 4 officials 5 minutes or so to clean this crap up. But if that's OK with the person representing NHRA and Div 7 and causing a delay in there show so be it. I didn't want anything from NHRA, I wanted Div7 to follow the rules that NHRA has drawn up. Apparently Div7 operates with a different set of rules. Is that so Vague Mr. Schaechter. It won't change the outcome, that's obvious and like stocker 396 posted earlier I don't have the correct last name for rules to be enforced. Schaechter, next time you have a heads-up make sure to leave your dry ice, ice baggies or whatever you may use in the engine compartment. It's OK, you"ll be fine. Am I still to Vague for you???