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Old 11-10-2007, 02:22 PM   #1
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One of the reasons people ask if it has a title is because a banker will loan money on something with a title. I don't know many who will loan money on a "race car."

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Old 11-10-2007, 02:35 PM   #2
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tire kicking is all part of looking for a good deal or the rite deal,,,I traffic and trade in race cars as a hobby,,,the best way to sell something is NOT to MIS represent it,,,,Ive run into ads that list a car runs 1.00 under and thanks the drag race central and some investigative work,,,,you will find the car has never been 1.00 under or even .50 under at that,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or you find that the last time the car was run was 2005 ,,even though it supposedly run every weekend,,,,,,,Dean rebeiro gave me some good advice,,,never buy a racecar on the starting line,,,alway sbuy it at the ET shack,,,,,(so to speak),,,,

on the title issue,,,,,having a title is just good business
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:50 PM   #3
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Thanks guys for all your opinions on this subject, It just gets your blood boiling when some questions come up that are stupid in my opinion. I can understand somewhat about the title thing but I also did some research concerning bills of sale; if I wanted a title I could have got one from the NC DMV but I knew the previous owner and they knew the original owners. I checked the VIN and it is clean, hell I even ran the numbers I found own the axles in the car and they come back to the original builder of the car dating back to 1982! I feel comfortable I have a legit peice. I told a friend today that I would sleep in that SOB before I undersold it. When I bought it I saw the flaws it had but I knew for what I got and what I paid I couldn't build it that cheap. Do you think if I offered it up for $1000 or best offer those same guys who are concerned about it not having a title would not think twice about buying it?
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:03 AM   #4
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I know what you mean on the boiling issue too,,,Ive got a stacker that Ive been half hearted wanting to sell,,,,got a killer deal on it,,,did a little work to it and trying to make a few,,,,,MADE THE MISTAKE of offering to take smaller trailer in on it to help someone get into a larger trailer without having to move theirs first,,,,,,,had mine priced at 22k to absorb some of the over inflated trades and still price it too cheap to take trades,,,,,but my fault for not pricing it at 30k and giving 15k for a 24 ft trade in


and on racing junk,,I aways remind lookers I want NO BIKES in on trade,,,,seems like everyone has a bike they want to trade on something
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:04 AM   #5
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here is a couple of things that might save some phone calls
when selling a car say what size driver the car will fit. i see all sorts of ads that state everything abought a car but they dont tell you what size person the car was built for
and when selling a stacker give the lift heights as in will it fit 2 full size cars or 1 car and a dragster
here agin i see ads that the person tells you how many drawers the tool box has but doesnt tell you what size cars it will haul these are just a couple points that might just save you them tire kicker calls
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:42 AM   #6
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at a swap meet selling you have a part for sale say for 100 dollars and a stroke walks up and offers 40 bucks i reply by saying 120... the look and confusion they go thru is pricelss when they assume you will meet them somewhere between the offer they made and your asking price ...big suprise when you start going the other direction with the price.
warning ....sometimes this will make a stroke mad enough you might want to have a knuckle sandwich ready for them to choke on
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #7
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I am presently searching for a track only car. Myself and friends search racing junk daily. There are many people who use such sites to find cars and parts. The post regarding driver height is a good one, travelled a fair ways to sit in a Vega that was far too small for me. I am 6'2" tall and the seller kind of "fudged" his height,in an attempt to sell his car quickly. When I sold my last drag car, March of this year, the buyer requested a title which I was able to provide. I too had a number of inquiries as to whether or not it could be put back on the street. Unfotunately we must realize that while we love racing there is certainly a much bigger market for "pro street" or dual purpose cars. Just my.02 cents a they say. Have a good one.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:55 PM   #8
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selling versus buying:
I have had excellent luck SELLING stuff because I generally deal with friends or real racers.I have actually developed friendships from the sale of my last few cars. Most guys are amazed the cars I sell DO what I claim they do and I give the answers they need to keep them running.
I sold my first race car as a trade and was supposed to get money. NO MONEY. Lots of years went by and I usually didnt buy much from racers or .......Then I had and the operative word is HAD a friend sell me some cars and parts. That was January. No parts no titles no return of money.Eleven months later he is waiting for the Judge to decide when he starts his 5 years prison. Another judge is deciding on WHEN I get ALL his belongings and house etc. Justice will be nice. All the other racers he has screwed along the way are waiting to enjoy justice too.
Next time you are bugged by tire kickers think about how you try for the best deal when buying a new truck or trailer or......they usually have little idea of the value of our parts.
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Old 11-11-2007, 06:05 PM   #9
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this hobby has always been like this. ive found street rodders are the kind of guys that brag about how cheap they built it for. and street car guys too. most of them do not want a good deal they really want to rob you...deal with racers.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:38 PM   #10
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I'm afraid there are racers who will take advantage of people, too. There are a couple that owe me money for decals. I hate it, but I'm going to have to start getting money up front from people. The vast majority of my customers have been great, but a scant few are going to ruin it for everyone.
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