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Old 05-11-2015, 09:58 AM   #1
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I have never understood why some people are so obsessed with cheating rather than following the rules. I've seen it for all my business life and have never understood what is gained by it. How could a person have any sense of self satisfaction about winning when they don't follow the rules and are cheaters? I bet there is some deep seeded, twisted psychological reason!
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Old 05-11-2015, 10:08 AM   #2
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I have never understood why some people are so obsessed with cheating rather than following the rules. I've seen it for all my business life and have never understood what is gained by it. How could a person have any sense of self satisfaction about winning when they don't follow the rules and are cheaters? I bet there is some deep seeded, twisted psychological reason!
They are like a thief, some people can do bad things without feeling guilt.
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Old 05-11-2015, 10:21 AM   #3
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I have never understood why some people are so obsessed with cheating rather than following the rules. I've seen it for all my business life and have never understood what is gained by it. How could a person have any sense of self satisfaction about winning when they don't follow the rules and are cheaters? I bet there is some deep seeded, twisted psychological reason!
Adger I think that cheating is fueled by cheating, lets say your combo is fast you feel you have the best stuff and have worked hard on it. Then mike comes along and blows you in the weeds,you don't know what to do to catch up, but you heard that he has a trick carb that's not as stock as yours. What do you do ?Now you get one and bam your back in the hunt. I WILL BET YOU KEEP THE CARB/S ON EVEN IF YOU FEEL THEY ARE NOT QUIT IN THE SPIRT OF THE RULES. Hence a cheater.
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Jim, That is a correct assumption. I've always called it Snow Ball effect. I've always had a line in the sand or point when I would let the customer go. I think some people use the logic that if someone else does it and gets away with it it isn't cheating. I'm sure some have seen this happen in their engine or parts business.Over the years I've developed into bending the rules and being "Creative", maybe outsmart someone or out work the competition. In my youth I subscribed to the Snow ball effect a few times and came away with an empty unfulfilled feeling. This business is like being an "Arms Dealer" what is required by the customer is always in a spiral, escalating upwards.
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Here's my 2 cents .. I think the sanctioning bodies should suspend and then hire these accused cheaters and pay them to find other cheaters. Once they catch their allotment , then they can be reinstated. Just a thought. Unless there is "honor amongst thieves" then its moot.
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Well Herb, from all the replies I've read, if you ever see it happen again you need to make everyone present aware at what's taking place as it is happening, otherwise the good old boy network takes over, and depending on the cheater's resume they may try to make an example of someone who doesn't win rather than tarnish a former or current champion. These thieves have no problem stealing or sleeping at night because they don't have a conscious, and that character flaw is what allows them to think they are not breaking the rule's. And those who subscribe to the idea that "it's not cheating unless your caught", please continue to read the previous sentence until it sinks in.
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Why is this taking so long? Illegal or not?

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Well Herb, from all the replies I've read, if you ever see it happen again you need to make everyone present aware at what's taking place as it is happening, otherwise the good old boy network takes over, and depending on the cheater's resume they may try to make an example of someone who doesn't win rather than tarnish a former or current champion. These thieves have no problem stealing or sleeping at night because they don't have a conscious, and that character flaw is what allows them to think they are not breaking the rule's. And those who subscribe to the idea that "it's not cheating unless your caught", please continue to read the previous sentence until it sinks in.
I have to ask myself. How good can you feel when you cheat to win? I guess, I have never wanted to win that bad. I also go right to sleep after getting in bed. All cheaters should be "outed". If not, it ruins the sport for everyone.
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Here's my 2 cents .. I think the sanctioning bodies should suspend and then hire these accused cheaters and pay them to find other cheaters. Once they catch their allotment , then they can be reinstated. Just a thought. Unless there is "honor amongst thieves" then its moot.
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