"Live" from the Indy US Nationals 2015

Kevin McKenna · 09-02-2015, 01:34 PM

Won't take sides in the new car debate but I will add some food for thought.

In 2008 (the last year before ANY new cars showed up) there were 169 Stockers on the final sheet at Indy and the bump was .938-under.

In 2015, there are 177 cars on the sheet after Q1 and the bump is .798-under but I'd anticipate that I will be in the .90-92 under range by the time we're done.

Obvious conclusion: If I want t run Indy, I'd better have a car that can run .92-under or quicker.

Also have to wonder what it was like in the late 1960s when the Super Stock eliminator was a 32 car field (mostly class winners) and there were as many as 200 cars on the entry list. Hard to imagine sending that many drivers home early but then again, we had 4 national events in 1968.

Troy Pourciau · 09-02-2015, 01:40 PM

Go ahead Larry. 10.17 in B weight. I know you got more

Kevin McKenna · 09-02-2015, 01:52 PM

Random notes after Super Stock Q1:

160 cars made runs

Bump is Don Bales SS/AH Hemi car at -.557 (8.743)

Only four cars more than a second under (Skillman, Cotten, Leopold Jr. and Twitchell)

21 Hemi Challenge cars (but only 8 of them are currently qualified)

a pair of '68 Barracudas racing as GT cars so obviously not part of the Hemi Challenge (Eric Bell and Eric Bardekoff).

Terry Bride · 09-02-2015, 02:02 PM

Kevin,
I'm pretty sure that 2008 was prior to the .30 index adjustment. So the .938 would be a .638 in relation to the index. So the field has picked up a tenth.

Kevin McKenna · 09-02-2015, 02:33 PM

I think I'd pay good money to watch Chris Holbrook's Cobra Jet and Clay Arnett's COPO run a best-of-three match race. They are currently the gold standard of supercharged Factory Stock racers and I think it would be every bit as exciting (with similar elapsed times) as a Bob Glidden vs. Lee Shepherd match from about 1981.Now, we just need to get someone (Barton? Tueton?) to build a competitive blown Mopar.

Kevin McKenna · 09-02-2015, 02:39 PM

While I'm flooding this thread with a lot of random thoughts how about this:

The Factory Stock Showdown (FS/XX) winner takes on the Hemi Challenge champ for an "Indy King of the Hill" title. Heads-up, no breakout.

Wolkwitz (8.554) and Holbrook (8.560) current leaders in each class.

troublemaker427 · 09-02-2015, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna

While I'm flooding this thread with a lot of random thoughts how about this:

The Factory Stock Showdown (FS/XX) winner takes on the Hemi Challenge champ for an "Indy King of the Hill" title. Heads-up, no breakout.

Wolkwitz (8.554) and Holbrook (8.560) current leaders in each class.

I like that idea!! Do it right before the Pro finals on TV too!!!

Nick Heath · 09-02-2015, 02:42 PM

Only the FS/X and FS/XX cars are immune to AHFS because they aren't factored based on HP and weight. Everything else still follows the same rules.

Larry Hill · 09-02-2015, 02:55 PM

It has warmed up a bunch! 90 right now! Sitting in the stands is brutal. Most everyone slowed down .05-.10 unless they had problems on the first run. Sherman picked up to go in front of us in B/SA.

More later.

TOM KASCH · 09-02-2015, 03:15 PM

2008 INDY SS Quilfing:
http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2008#indextop

09-02-2015, 01:34 PM	#1
Kevin McKenna Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 Likes: 0 Liked 32 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY Won't take sides in the new car debate but I will add some food for thought. In 2008 (the last year before ANY new cars showed up) there were 169 Stockers on the final sheet at Indy and the bump was .938-under. In 2015, there are 177 cars on the sheet after Q1 and the bump is .798-under but I'd anticipate that I will be in the .90-92 under range by the time we're done. Obvious conclusion: If I want t run Indy, I'd better have a car that can run .92-under or quicker. Also have to wonder what it was like in the late 1960s when the Super Stock eliminator was a 32 car field (mostly class winners) and there were as many as 200 cars on the entry list. Hard to imagine sending that many drivers home early but then again, we had 4 national events in 1968.

09-02-2015, 01:40 PM	#2
Troy Pourciau Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 678 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY Go ahead Larry. 10.17 in B weight. I know you got more __________________ Troy "City Dog" Pourciau

09-02-2015, 01:52 PM	#3
Kevin McKenna Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 Likes: 0 Liked 32 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY Random notes after Super Stock Q1: 160 cars made runs Bump is Don Bales SS/AH Hemi car at -.557 (8.743) Only four cars more than a second under (Skillman, Cotten, Leopold Jr. and Twitchell) 21 Hemi Challenge cars (but only 8 of them are currently qualified) a pair of '68 Barracudas racing as GT cars so obviously not part of the Hemi Challenge (Eric Bell and Eric Bardekoff).

09-02-2015, 02:02 PM	#4
Terry Bride Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 23 Likes: 8 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY Kevin, I'm pretty sure that 2008 was prior to the .30 index adjustment. So the .938 would be a .638 in relation to the index. So the field has picked up a tenth. Last edited by Terry Bride; 09-02-2015 at 02:04 PM.

09-02-2015, 02:33 PM	#5
Kevin McKenna Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 Likes: 0 Liked 32 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY I think I'd pay good money to watch Chris Holbrook's Cobra Jet and Clay Arnett's COPO run a best-of-three match race. They are currently the gold standard of supercharged Factory Stock racers and I think it would be every bit as exciting (with similar elapsed times) as a Bob Glidden vs. Lee Shepherd match from about 1981.Now, we just need to get someone (Barton? Tueton?) to build a competitive blown Mopar.

09-02-2015, 02:39 PM	#6
Kevin McKenna Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 194 Likes: 0 Liked 32 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY While I'm flooding this thread with a lot of random thoughts how about this: The Factory Stock Showdown (FS/XX) winner takes on the Hemi Challenge champ for an "Indy King of the Hill" title. Heads-up, no breakout. Wolkwitz (8.554) and Holbrook (8.560) current leaders in each class.

09-02-2015, 02:42 PM	#8
Nick Heath Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 362 Likes: 1,446 Liked 576 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY Only the FS/X and FS/XX cars are immune to AHFS because they aren't factored based on HP and weight. Everything else still follows the same rules.

09-02-2015, 02:55 PM	#9
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,674 Likes: 1,989 Liked 10,943 Times in 2,259 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY It has warmed up a bunch! 90 right now! Sitting in the stands is brutal. Most everyone slowed down .05-.10 unless they had problems on the first run. Sherman picked up to go in front of us in B/SA. More later. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

09-02-2015, 03:15 PM	#10
TOM KASCH VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TOLEDO,OHIO Posts: 1,735 Likes: 0 Liked 241 Times in 100 Posts	Re: Live from the US Nationals INDY 2008 INDY SS Quilfing: http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2008#indextop

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