2015 - The Indy some of us missed ! ! !

[Joe Schaechter]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

oh BY THE WAY > did anyone else besides lee zane see the spaceship driving around... if it weren't for lee I might have quit drinking !!!!!!!!!!

I am not sure how they got it into the track but here it is

[Kevin McKenna]

Thanks for the kind words Jack. I enjoy almost every element of my job (yes, even nitro cars) but I always seem find that Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday at Indy are some of my favorite days of the year. There is very little that can compare with Class Racing at Indy.

I'm happy to share my observations and thoughts here, even if its only once a year. Then again, I live in Indy now and there's a pretty good National Open here next month so maybe I'll start a "Live from" thread when the time comes.

Finally, a few closing thoughts:

Roy Hill took a fair amount of grief for his two big wheelstands but the reality is that could have been almost anyone. I certainly wouldn't even begin to suggest that Roy isn't a capable driver (I value my health far too much for that). The truth is, that could have been almost anyone. I've seen plenty of cars (even with wheelie bars) border on the edge of control. Thankfully, no one was injured and the class got a lot of prime exposure.

I'd be lying if I said the Westcott's weren't missed in the Hemi Challenge but it was also nice to see a couple of new finalists. I hope I'm not embarrassing Lloyd Wofford, but seeing a grown man with tears streaming down his face tells me all I need to know about how special Indy is.

I understand that there is still a fair amount of debate an dissention regarding the "new cars" but from where I sit, these are the good old days. Right now, there is an incredible mix of old and new that I'm not sure we've ever had before.

Hopefully, there will always be a place for guys like Ben Wenzel, Dallas Kelly, Jim Bailey, Gus Adkins, and everyone else with an appreciation for vintage muscle cars but the influx of new cars (and perhaps more importantly, new team owners like Bongiovanni, Skillman, Candies, and P.C. Richard) has done nothing but make class racing stronger. I'm not sure where else you can go to see 350 of the coolest cars in the world. Maybe the Barrett-Jackson auction but last time I checked, they don't run class there.

[Jeff Teuton]

One third of Stock was new cars (as understood to be 2008 and newer), so I don't know who the Native Americans are and who is running the wagon train, but like it or not 1/3 is the real numbers or about 60. But I think secretly the Copo's were mating in the back 40 cause there was at least 90 of them there. Super Stock on the other hand at the biggest race had 28 New cars/New Motor/New Something/ that NHRA created 23 new classes for. Out of about 164 I think. That needs to go away. There was not one new/car/motor etc class with more than two and I think 6 or 8 in the combo for new cars. :Now SS has 109 classes, sorta like where NHRA took Comp and the 'diversity' it has and is dead but not buried. Lik'em or not, these are the numbers. In Stock what is not showing here is the in between year cars; the Camaro's and Corvettes with LT1 and LS1 or whatever else out there that are not 60's cars. Like Joe Friday; just the facts.

[Chuck Rayburn]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

One third of Stock was new cars (as understood to be 2008 and newer), so I don't know who the Native Americans are and who is running the wagon train, but like it or not 1/3 is the real numbers or about 60. But I think secretly the Copo's were mating in the back 40 cause there was at least 90 of them there. Super Stock on the other hand at the biggest race had 28 New cars/New Motor/New Something/ that NHRA created 23 new classes for. Out of about 164 I think. That needs to go away. There was not one new/car/motor etc class with more than two and I think 6 or 8 in the combo for new cars. :Now SS has 109 classes, sorta like where NHRA took Comp and the 'diversity' it has and is dead but not buried. Lik'em or not, these are the numbers. In Stock what is not showing here is the in between year cars; the Camaro's and Corvettes with LT1 and LS1 or whatever else out there that are not 60's cars. Like Joe Friday; just the facts.

Jeff,
Any idea how your stats based on one race compare to all the cars in all the classes in all the divisions in all the races to date this year? This math should be done otherwise you sound self serving.

[Dave Casey]

Jeff , You know I love ya, but I gotta debate ya here

"One third of Stock was new cars (as understood to be 2008 and newer), so I don't know who the Native Americans are and who is running the wagon train, but like it or not 1/3 is the real numbers or about 60. "

It's Indy Jeff, everybody with any grade point can get in, and if you can afford a new car, you can afford to go to Indy. The Maple Grove National event coming up took more grade points to get in and 16% of the stockers are new cars. Also of importance is the fact that having separate classes has brought more excitement and participation to the regular classes, I think we heard alot about B/SA at Indy didn't we ?

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"Super Stock on the other hand at the biggest race had 28 New cars/New Motor/New Something/ that NHRA created 23 new classes for. Out of about 164 I think. That needs to go away. There was not one new/car/motor etc class with more than two and I think 6 or 8 in the combo for new cars."

The separation of the new cars/new motors greatly helped the traditional motored SS classes, the competion was more exciting and some racers came back to Indy that would not have without this change . I agree that there are alot of classes now, but it is a moot point since the singles go into the combo.


" Lik'em or not, these are the numbers. In Stock what is not showing here is the in between year cars; the Camaro's and Corvettes with LT1 and LS1 or whatever else out there that are not 60's cars. Like Joe Friday; just the facts."

Those cars have been beat up HP wise like the earlier ones with a couple of exceptions.

There are always exceptions, like that guy from D4 with the late model Dodge in a traditional class, you now that guy right? You probably know who got it in the guide too ? LOL

It is Friday, But my name isn't Joe,,,just the fact,,,

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