Stick shift drivers by division

[55 Chevy]

Hopefully you can count me in for a couple of races in division 6 next year.

Allan

[Jeff Jewell]

Don't forget these long time Division 1 stick shift racers...

Jim Zane
Rich Oakes
Mike Papp

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Joe and Mark,
Shifting face plated trans without clutch just requires yanking the crap out of it,once you pull it out of the gear it's in, it falls in the next, My brother ran his Jerico for 5 seasons racing every weekend and shifted it clutchless 4 1/2 of them before he had to replace a slider and ring or 2.
As far as clutch goes you can lower pressure when not using clutch to shift.
I have shifted a few gears without clutch in a pro shifted trans by accident.
As soon as I have a face plated trans I most likely will shift without the clutch.
Mike Taylor 3601

[DonatoEng]

Last time I ran my stick shift Dakota, I was invited to the barn to pull the trans so Tech could look at it. No one else in tear down could figure out what I was doing until I rolled out with it and put it on the bench.


Anyone else do that before ?

[Mike Taylor 3601]

Originally Posted by DonatoEng

Last time I ran my stick shift Dakota, I was invited to the barn to pull the trans so Tech could look at it. No one else in tear down could figure out what I was doing until I rolled out with it and put it on the bench.


Anyone else do that before ?

Shouldn't have to pull trans to find out if is clutchless, just need to go for ride with you and have accelerate in each gear and let off throttle, if it is clutchless the shifter will ratchet back and forth when you let off gas because back side of sliders and rings are ramped and will try to kick out of gear when you aren't in a pull,if you are holding shifter it will ratchet as slider an ring jump over ramps, except for high gear.
Also all the clutchless trans I have ever seen have to have rod from shifter for every gear,4 speed has 4 rods plus reverse 5 has 5 rods plus reverse.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by DonatoEng

Last time I ran my stick shift Dakota, I was invited to the barn to pull the trans so Tech could look at it. No one else in tear down could figure out what I was doing until I rolled out with it and put it on the bench.


Anyone else do that before ?

All you have to do on a true clutchless, is put it in each gear, engine off, and rock it back and forth.
Like Mike said, it won't catch again on the ramps of the previous gear.
Been checked at Indy that way, years ago, right at the scales.

[Dirk Olson]

Ed,

It would great to work this out. We as stick racers are a minority. But I believe that given the right venue, we could make this work. Maybe we start slow by doing a S/SS Stick shootouts at Div races to spark interest?To find a location that is for everyone probably will not work just because of logistics but as they said about a spot in a corn field in Iowa "if you build it they will come". I believe that is the same for racers just not in the numbers we would like but we need to start somwhere.

Dirk

[Sean Marconette]

Ed,
It would be interesting to see how many ACTIVE stick racers there are per division and per races completed in a season. This could be by divisional as not everyone competes at the national level. There seems to be a fair share of stick cars in S/SS at most D5 races that I have attended. How does that stack up with other divisions? Car count vs % of stick cars competing would be cool.

As for a stick car race, if you are the guy putting forth the effort I would say put it in your backyard and screw anyone that does not understand why it needs to be somewhere else. You cannot and will not please everyone. I would not be a very good promoter!! Those of us in the area I believe would support you if you chose to persue having something.

Thanks again Ed
Sean


To not derail this thread any further. I believe Mike Tailors post on shifting without a clutch nailed it, the T5 I had was not faceplated but every other syncro was removed. I never hurt the internal rail or shift forks. How light the base pressure is makes a difference between clutched vs clutchless shifting and CW will be different as well.

[Christopher Stewart]

Good on remembering Jimmy Bridges #2018, he's in Div.2
Other Div. 2's, Ken Vaughn & Mike Lynch,
Might add Div 4's Dick Lux
Anyone mention Jimmy Gower?
Yup, Larry shook'em up good at INDY '14

[69ss/rs]

You also forgot the Golliday brothers Harry & Larry from Div 1