Random thought about the *HRA

[Ed Wright]

Your talking about time. I'm talking about it being easier to put foot on somebody at 100.
Easier for me to control that 12" at 100 MPH. Maybe not for you?
Still don't care to do it. IHRA can have it.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Your talking about time. I'm talking about it being easier to put foot on somebody at 100.
Easier for me to control that 12" at 100 MPH. Maybe not for you?
Still don't care to do it. IHRA can have it.

Of course we're talking about time. That is the metric used by our sport, and what determines a win or loss. If you take a foot at 100 mph, you're looking at just under .007. At 135 mph, that same MOV is over 16 inches, i.e. you don't HAVE to cut it as close to achieve the same result.

In terms of judging physical distance, the difficulty level is a factor of the speed differential between you and your opponent. It is easier to judge a 1/4-mile matchup of 135 mph vs 130 mph than it is an 1/8th mile matchup of 100 mph vs 115 mph. Perhaps the argument you are actually trying to make is that statistically, the speed differentials are more likely to be smaller on the 1/8th mile.

[Ron Ortiz]

So what about you D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6 and D7 drivers think about this. Do you think that your surrounding racetracks would go to 1,000 ft for "operational purposes".

Ron Ortiz
U/SA just trying to help our sport

[Dick Butler]

Interesting math discussions. Interesting thoughts on track length. *HRA s might discuss this one as it saves time, space, etc. Runs sportsman class cars through faster to shorten the event time they require. Kind of like fewer lights on the tree.

A shame there are no logical people to discuss "Class racing" as apposed to the Dial in component. That might help the fan interest too but little interest to *HRA.

[Ed Wright]

Many people refuse to run 1/8th mile. Look at the IHRA 1/8th mile car counts.

Many of us liked running off records as well. Mattered if you were fast. We lost most of the slow guys to bracket racing when that crap came along. Same thing would happen if your idea was used.

[Ron Ortiz]

Gees Ed why all the doom & gloom. It is not up to us racers to change the distance, it is track operators who will make the change for operational purposes.I'm just looking at all the cars that run 1/4 and the other cars that run the 1/8. Just a way to cross them over to preserve car counts. IHRA car counts are low, yes, but so is some NHRA races down also. Not counting NHRA limiting car count fields.

Here is another question for you Ed, why are tracks converting over to IHRA, what happens when your home track goes to a different distance, will you abandon them and park your car due to your stubbornness.

Running off records was done in the past. But what if the record holder in your class was like a Bob Shaw and his Caddy. Think you can go 2.25 under your index. That will put a stop to your racing.

Here in FL we now have 4 IHRA tracks and 1 NHRA track, where it used to be 4 NHRA and 1 IHRA. I did not have any control over this situation.

Regardless of sanction, we as races better be prepared for what might be coming and voice our opinions, remedies, and concerns to the proper people.

Just a random thought.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I want to race.

[Dan Fahey]

Ed...you got to stop taking your cranky PILLS

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[Ed Wright]

Maybe you weren't racing then? More often than not, I was running off my own record.
We were allowed to run one tenth under, I always could. Somebody over two seconds under? Just leave on time and
push them out. Maybe a little more serious racers back then, and two rounds worth of points for an et record, guys were much more likely to set records then. A two second under guy was no more dangerous than a one tenth under guy, unless it was a heads up. I would not be in a class that low anyway. Would not be a problem for me.

As for IHRA car counts, been to several with 8 to 12 SS cars. Never at an NHRA race.
I don't know how they keep going. This Tulsa track didn't stay with them very long, due to extremely low car & spectator counts. Back to NHRA now.

And, yes, I would park mine rather than run 1/8th mile. Racers have a little say when they stop showing up for 1/8th mile races. I know many that feel the same way.

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Gees Ed why all the doom & gloom. It is not up to us racers to change the distance, it is track operators who will make the change for operational purposes.I'm just looking at all the cars that run 1/4 and the other cars that run the 1/8. Just a way to cross them over to preserve car counts. IHRA car counts are low, yes, but so is some NHRA races down also. Not counting NHRA limiting car count fields.

Here is another question for you Ed, why are tracks converting over to IHRA, what happens when your home track goes to a different distance, will you abandon them and park your car due to your stubbornness.

Running off records was done in the past. But what if the record holder in your class was like a Bob Shaw and his Caddy. Think you can go 2.25 under your index. That will put a stop to your racing.

Here in FL we now have 4 IHRA tracks and 1 NHRA track, where it used to be 4 NHRA and 1 IHRA. I did not have any control over this situation.

Regardless of sanction, we as races better be prepared for what might be coming and voice our opinions, remedies, and concerns to the proper people.

Just a random thought.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA I want to race.