SS Modified

[71mavlouisville]

Mike, your post on this thread are the best I've read in a long time, love the Obama comment, LMAO, right on!

[randy wilson]

Also, a class that does not even exist, that effects no class that does exist, should bother absolutely no one. I know when they implemented Pro Mod, It effected me not at all, and I gave it zero thought other then I like it.

[blkjack]

Originally Posted by 71mavlouisville

Mike, your post on this thread are the best I've read in a long time, love the Obama comment, LMAO, right on!

x2

[Dick Butler]

"Everyone should be able to win at heads up racing regardless how much time and money they spend" Obama.
I think that's is how you stated it. Funny comment and but ...
You have missed the fact that in eliminator when you take out your shoe polish to put your dial in on the window you are getting your Obama handicap help.
You are no longer truly racing someone, you are playing the clock with shoe polish dial in as an equalizer. It was intended to allow various classes to compete together since the variations in cars and classes became massive by expansion of number of classes.
The other facts about winning class regardless how much you work or spend is incorrect because you imply a $10,000 car is proposed to run in a class with the guys who have invested $150,000 in a factory car.
No that wasn't intended in any of my posts. An economy class of cars to attract more new racers or as a place for everyone to race who honestly cannot invest $35,000 in a motor or high buck trans .
Also might reread the posts on Dime Rockets where guys brag about being #1 Qualifier with a ________( name the unfactored rule book oversight). Pick up, Turbo van, etc.
Lots of fun in this topic but hoping to keep the thoughts clearly separated for what was proposed versus how people interpret the ideas.

[Dick Butler]

Facts about savings for a class of Econo Mod with proposed rules.
(also fastest growing class in round track with these rules)
Spec unmod Al Brodix heads and cast manifold savings-----------$15,000

Clutch rule, no computer, no pan evac system savings-------------$7,000

Stock Diameter cam and lifter rule savings-------------------------------$1000

9" Deck block rule, No titanium drive line parts-savings -------------??????

The rules used can be re posted Stick car rules save $23-25,000.
Tech with scope in pan or heads.

Just wanted to add these amounts to suggest the value of changing one Mod class rule set or adding to save costs.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Facts about savings for a class of Econo Mod with proposed rules.
(also fastest growing class in round track with these rules)
Spec unmod Al Brodix heads and cast manifold savings-----------$15,000

Clutch rule, no computer, no pan evac system savings-------------$7,000

Stock Diameter cam and lifter rule savings-------------------------------$1000

9" Deck block rule, No titanium drive line parts-savings -------------??????

The rules used can be re posted Stick car rules save $23-25,000.
Tech with scope in pan or heads.

Just wanted to add these amounts to suggest the value of changing one Mod class rule set or adding to save costs.

So Dick, since you are limiting the class to a 9" deck, why not call it Chevy/GM Econo Mod class?
A Mopar small block has a 9.6" deck height and Ford has 3 deck heights: 8.2, 9.2 and 9.5.
By the way, Titanium is already prohibited in the Modified classes.
So, you have to pull the timing cover to check the cam diameter?

Like I someone said earlier, local tracks can run such type of class, at national event level, it will not happen. It would require a teardown at every event.

[randy wilson]

As far as I know, titanium lug nuts, yokes, and wheel studs are legal in modified. Correct me if I'm wrong. And the tear down is very simple in my opinion. Any 4150 carb. (No tear down) any stroke, (no tear down) cast intake with no external miss, (no tear down) any combustion chamber mod, (no tear down) angle mill all you want, (no tear down) intake and exhaust ports can't be altered,(no tear down, just a bore scope) if questionable, tear down. Min 10.5" clutch, no counter weights, one disc, no tear down.

[Ed Carpenter]

A spec motor class will never happen in NHRA. You have a better chance of turning Obuma into a Republican first........

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Gonna have to splain to me how you save $7000 in the clutch rule by not allowing data loggers or pan evac systems. Pan evac= less than $100 entry level datalogger can be had for $600 since everyone already owns a laptop that's a wash on cost. I'm aware of at least one "econo" circle track series in my area, believe me when you limit one thing many dollars get spent on something else to enhance performance. Bottom line any "limited" class series will quickly spiral out of control merely because there WILL be someone that is willing to spend what ever it takes to be the fastest. It's been proven over and over. Oh and since the stick cars are limited...I'll assume there will be a "spec" torque converter and everyone runs a bone stock power glide right?