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Old 11-10-2015, 10:34 PM   #1
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What was I thinking???
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:48 PM   #2
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What he said X 10!! Have seen drivers using open face helmets only because their cars don't go below 9.99......the rule is for all!!
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:50 PM   #3
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^^^^^^ Makes sense.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:59 PM   #4
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Well said Mr Cour.
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Yes, parachutes on those SS/PA cars. Because they are simply unsafe without it.
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Old 11-11-2015, 02:01 PM   #6
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:23 AM   #7
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Personally I think the 10.00 rule for the helmets is OK. My car is right on the cusp of that performance. I wear my open helmet above 10.0 and a full helmet when my car is running faster than that. I do not like the restricted vision of the full helmet and it makes my glasses fog up and that in itself is a safety hazard.Its a rare occasion that two cars collide in our type of racing. I would agree with the fire resistant clothing to be all the same as well as the cage. There are some stockers running with out any sort of roll bar or safety harness and just using the factory seat belts. I would think this would be a higher priority.
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Old 11-11-2015, 10:12 AM   #8
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One reason NHRA does the safety requirements by class is that in tech, how does a tech man know how fast a car will go? Ask the Racer? Ha. One SS/I goes 10.90 while another can go 9.90. If the tech man asks both racers, who knows what the answer will be. Happens all the time in brackets. Someone comes thru tech and when asked he says 10.50 because he has no cage or -5 suit and the car runs 9.50 or faster. Car will likely make it all the way thru time trials and not be caught. Only when an ET is on the window can someone maybe see the car is not running the required equipment.
Most S and SS classes have a range of 1+ seconds from slowest to fastest. If 9.99 falls in that range, I think NHRA finds it easier and safer to require the car to have the equipment for the faster of the range for the above reason.
Arbitrary? Maybe. But maybe there is a reason.
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:49 PM   #9
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One reason NHRA does the safety requirements by class is that in tech, how does a tech man know how fast a car will go? Ask the Racer?
That's exactly how it works. Racers must certify that their car and credentials meet the necessary requirements. Read the paragraph on the tech card where you sign your name.

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Someone comes thru tech and when asked he says 10.50 because he has no cage or -5 suit and the car runs 9.50 or faster.
Then the driver is subject to disqualification and/or suspension.


I don't know why it is in the slightest way controversial to suggest that rules should have the same standards for everyone, at any event.
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I personally think anyone running super stock, should be outfitted with all the same safety equipment as a SS/AM car. The reason why is ......we run these fast cars in elims, and if one gets out of shape and comes across the track and hits us at the finish line, we all will wish we had the same safety apparel as they have. It's a safety concern, no matter what class, slow, or fast you run. If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be racing. My 2 cents.

That's a good and logical point that has been brought up before. But to put things into perspective, the disparity is even greater in Stock, especially since the factory race cars were introduced. Some are in the high 8's and have the opportunity to race against Stockers in the mid-teens.


Full cages, full face helmets and SFI 5 suits would be prudent in slow stockers because of this, but it isn't beneficial to the health of our sport. No easy solutions or suggestions that I can see, at least not without more controversy.
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