Going DEEP....

[Ed Wright]

You don't think it was because deep staging makes your ET show slower? You can run faster than the clocks show? Only very slow cars can get a green light doing that. What is right about some cars being able to actually break out, and not show it? The vast majority of cars can not get a green light that way. If it was ever put to a vote of the racers, it would lose.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Ed.....And you figured this out all on your own ? It was put to a vote, a select FEW voted to outlaw Deep Staging according to NHRA . Of course , NHRA also told us that there was a Break In at Wayne Co. Speed Shop years earlier sooo......pardon my skepticism

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Ed.....And you figured this out all on your own ? It was put to a vote, a select FEW voted to outlaw Deep Staging according to NHRA . Of course , NHRA also told us that there was a Break In at Wayne Co. Speed Shop years earlier sooo......pardon my skepticism

I never heard of a vote. If the racers voted, at least in SS, it would get voted down. Almost nobody could get a green light staging that deep. They don't make buttons THAT slow. LOL

[jmantle]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I never heard of a vote. If the racers voted, at least in SS, it would get voted down. Almost nobody could get a green light staging that deep. They don't make buttons THAT slow. LOL

Those of us who run slower stockers would benefit from being able to deep stage.
As we are in the minority, we lost the vote. I have to leave when I see the second amber going out, not an easy thing to teach an old racer.

Jim Mantle V/SA 68

[JOE ZOOM]

Originally Posted by jmantle

those of us who run slower stockers would benefit from being able to deep stage.
As we are in the minority, we lost the vote. I have to leave when i see the second amber going out, not an easy thing to teach an old racer.

Jim mantle v/sa 68

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[Maverick]

The sportsman classes should be just like the pros. You only need one light to start, and that is the stage. The problem to me is racers putting deep on the window, and expect special treatment, when they stage. It is something extra that is not needed or wanted. The prestagr was to just tell you , your getting close to the stage. It adds to the confuline, easily when the slower time wins the round due to reaction time being lower and a slower et. I think NHRA did it to take out some of the variation in this technique of rolling. It is stupid to me that I roll in and the prestage goes out and I am staged, but I go red. Just because I let the top bulb go out. If the rule is that great, then the pros should do the same thing. I have to roll in to get good lites, and I run super gas. If the top bulb flickers I am red. But if the bottom bulb flickers, cause you too shallow, well I believe that have a fix in the timing system for that, and you don't go red. I want it just like the pros. I roll in and the top bulb goes out, so what I am staged. Also could be for the rule is that you know where you are when the top bulb goes out, and can adjust you delay, or what ever to be even better. Let's race and do it like the pros. I believe it would liven thing up on the starting line

[Pinballer]

At the local tracks I've been to, if a competitor wants to stage deep, as a racer courtesy he is -expected- to get in there and get staged first so as not to "hold up the show". Much like Jim Mantle stated, I already know from past experience that if forced to shallow stage, I too will have to leave in between the second and third yellows in order to cut a good light with a 14 second 6 cyl car. The reason for a deep stage in my world is simply to adjust where I leave on the tree, not to get closer to the finish line. Even though I've always had slow cars, I just wanted on leave on the last yellow like everybody else gets to do!
But its OK, I'll figure out the adjustment either with shorter tires or brain cells..been through the wars many times before.

As far as deep staging being an advantage--you have to run what's written on the window or slower so I don't see that being an issue as far as ET is concerned. Doesn't mean a deep stage guy will always cut .00_ lights either.
Yeah, I get where a fast car can ET slower than what they're fully capable of if they're in deep, but the only time I can see that really meaning anything is when you can run 1.20 unders or better at will.

[Harmie]

Pro's are the only ones NHRA are interested in you would think by now everybody would realize that.........

[cicero819]

NHRA wanted to get rid of the slower cars, this would shorten time allowed for stock eliminator and would remove many from running competitively for class at National events. Look what has happen in Class, hardly any cars populate the lower echelons.Now more time can be spent letting the pros have ten guys cleaning their tires before a run.CR.

[Mepprecht]

I have a time card from the summer nationals this year, I accidentally went deep.... On the reaction time it just says DEEP. It was R3.