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Old 12-01-2015, 10:20 PM   #1
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Hard to imagin a good working nine second car reacting slow enough to be green while deep staging.
what defines a "good working nine second car" to you?
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:27 PM   #2
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what defines a "good working nine second car" to you?
Guess I should have said: Nobody I know has a nine second car that reacts slow enough to deep stage. I guess a driver could be that slow reacting. Again, nobody I know.
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:43 PM   #3
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well take it for what's it's worth since I'm not a class racer but to Joe's point, it can be and is done with fast cars.

My MPR built Super Stock GT Firebird by all accounts IS a very good working nine second car that now has a 900+HP BBC under the hood, backed by a stock gear set turbo400. I'll go so far as to say it's the best working 9 second car in Division 1 running brackets, posting a best 60 foot of 1.17 and typical 60 foots are between 1.19 and 1.22 depending on weather and track and .09 slower when breaking the 60 foot clocks with the back tires.

FYI, back in October I decided to deep stage my Firebird mainly to see if I could.

Well after 3 hits, lowering my stage RPM and adjusting my front shocks for more wheelie, my reaction times were between -.004 and .022 launching at 2400 RPM. Will continue this exercise next season.

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Old 12-01-2015, 11:04 PM   #4
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You love to brag. Maybe it's you that reacts slow, and not the car? LOL
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:10 PM   #5
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it ain't bragging if you can back it up and I obviously can and it could be, I'm old but not ancient like you.

What I love to do is dispel hearsay, proving the facts and the truth!!

Oh and my very good nine second car is actually a very good eight second car. That 9.00 @ 149.33 pass is courtesy of my restrictor plate.

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Old 12-02-2015, 12:54 AM   #6
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Imediately had to go to 28" front tires, lower my 2 step RPM, and find a slower button


And why should automatics be allowed a delay device? I could have a 12inch throw button in my car and it still wont leave until I release the clutch.
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:21 AM   #7
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Imediately had to go to 28" front tires, lower my 2 step RPM, and find a slower button


And why should automatics be allowed a delay device? I could have a 12inch throw button in my car and it still wont leave until I release the clutch.
Rod, you don't have an adjustable stop on or under your clutch pedal? Like about everybody I know uses? Like I used when I raced a stick car?
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What I love to do is dispel hearsay, proving the facts and the truth!!
Gee, me too! I guess that we're just getting to be like the Lame-stream Media. It depends on what facts and truths we want to prove and how it benefits our personal agenda!
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I never understood why deep staging was banned either; well, yes I did, see Bill Koski's post.

There is NO DOUBT that it can be nearly impossible to hit the tree leaving on a flash of the bottom in some cars. And "some cars" can even be 10 second cars (probably faster, but I can't speak to that). Case in point, my '69 F/SA car and the new Copo. Neither hits the tree great, I'm always on the "turned up" end of adjustment, often taking bumps. Conversely, the K/SA wagon hits the tree like a bitch! Instant rotation. Many times I find myself lowering rpm and tire pressure to keep it green. High 11 second car...go figure...
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