Question for Class Racers.

[Mike Carr]

I agree with Billy--as long as they are not trying to pass it off as 'legit' and try to run an xHRA race. If they want to cruise around, or bracket race it, fine.

I have no problem with a 'tribute car' design; as long as they do not try and pass it off as the actual car. Case in point: at Quaker City in the mid 90's during a muscle car nostalgia race, there were FOUR 1963 Plymouths; all represented as ex-Arlen Vanke 'Old Brownie' cars. One problem--Arnie only ever had ONE. That part I do have a problem with. If you want to bill your car as a 'tribute' car, fine. But do not try and claim it as the real deal. I saw, a few years ago, a late 1970's Mopar wagon in a grocery store parking lot. Regular street car. Was painted up with a Division 4 number (4472 or something?) and U/SA on the windows. I asked the guy about it, he said he saw a similar car in a racing magazine years ago, and wanted to make his street car look like it.

I would like to know more information about that gold Chevelle. I see Butler PA and D/D Engines on it, which both are pretty close to me. In '68-'70, Dad was in Vietnam, so he would not have been here then. Who did, or does, have it ?

[james schaechter]

Doesn't bother me when they are at car shows. Although I saw a "retro" pro stock vega at a car show. When I looked inside it had a Powerglide I it! I admit that I threw up just a little bit when I saw that. .

[Bob Don]

The "real" ones are in the staging lanes.

[FireSale]

The gold Chevelle in post one must be really good. It's dial in is in permanent numbers...

All I care about is the win light.

Dale

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I agree with Billy--as long as they are not trying to pass it off as 'legit' and try to run an xHRA race. If they want to cruise around, or bracket race it, fine.

I have no problem with a 'tribute car' design; as long as they do not try and pass it off as the actual car. Case in point: at Quaker City in the mid 90's during a muscle car nostalgia race, there were FOUR 1963 Plymouths; all represented as ex-Arlen Vanke 'Old Brownie' cars. One problem--Arnie only ever had ONE. That part I do have a problem with. If you want to bill your car as a 'tribute' car, fine. But do not try and claim it as the real deal. I saw, a few years ago, a late 1970's Mopar wagon in a grocery store parking lot. Regular street car. Was painted up with a Division 4 number (4472 or something?) and U/SA on the windows. I asked the guy about it, he said he saw a similar car in a racing magazine years ago, and wanted to make his street car look like it.

I would like to know more information about that gold Chevelle. I see Butler PA and D/D Engines on it, which both are pretty close to me. In '68-'70, Dad was in Vietnam, so he would not have been here then. Who did, or does, have it ?

Craig Dawson has/had? the original Ol' Brownie. He painted it black, but lettered it up like it was originally lettered. I seem to recall the reasoning was he didn't want to cause confusion with Paul Suloff, who had built a clown of Ol' Brownie. The clown car is still floating around, and was featured in Mopar Collector's Guide fairly recently with a bunch of misinformation in the article.

[Mike Meier]

Bothers me more when people post street cars or bracket cars in the Stock / Super Stock section of Racing Junk.

[goinbroke2]

X1000

[ALMACK]

I have no problem with tribute class cars so long as they are not misrepresented.

I personally love looking at Stockers and Super Stockers that are dressed out with a look from a certain era. ( mostly late 70's to late 80's)

[Bob Don]

ISCA (show car sanctioning body) has competition classes that break down very similarly with NHRA classes. It just could be these cars are lettered to fall into these classes?

From the ISCA rulebook:

"3330.0 Competition Stock — 1960 or later drag type stock
cars. Must have seat belts, may have a shoulder
harness. Rear tires can be no larger than 10.5” slick
or 12” street tire. Bolt on traction bars and ladder
bars are allowed. Wheelie bars are not permitted.
Multiple carburetors and factory styled fuel injection
systems are allowed. Must have full factory style
interior; no interior gutting allowed. Rear seat may be
removed for installation of roll cage or roll bar. Must
be carpeted.
3340.0 Super Stock — American factory produced drag type
high-performance cars. Roll bar or cage and shoulder
harness. Engine in stock location. Any size street or
racing tires. Must have full factory type upholstery;
rear seat may be removed for installation of cage
or roll bar; must be carpeted. Any intake manifold
permitted provided unit is same configuration as
original."

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

ISCA (show car sanctioning body) has competition classes that break down very similarly with NHRA classes. It just could be these cars are lettered to fall into these classes?

From the ISCA rulebook:

"3330.0 Competition Stock — 1960 or later drag type stock
cars. Must have seat belts, may have a shoulder
harness. Rear tires can be no larger than 10.5” slick
or 12” street tire. Bolt on traction bars and ladder
bars are allowed. Wheelie bars are not permitted.
Multiple carburetors and factory styled fuel injection
systems are allowed. Must have full factory style
interior; no interior gutting allowed. Rear seat may be
removed for installation of roll cage or roll bar. Must
be carpeted.
3340.0 Super Stock — American factory produced drag type
high-performance cars. Roll bar or cage and shoulder
harness. Engine in stock location. Any size street or
racing tires. Must have full factory type upholstery;
rear seat may be removed for installation of cage
or roll bar; must be carpeted. Any intake manifold
permitted provided unit is same configuration as
original."

Showcar association? For racecars? That's kind of obscene/wrong....on second thought, what do they pay to win? Contingency? 10K to the burnout contest winner? Bob where do you find this stuff, or are you making it up?

Eric