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Old 02-08-2016, 03:14 PM   #1
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Surprised some of you guys arent complaining when a car breaks out by more then another car, yet still loses. By your thought process on redlites the car that breaks out first should be the loser and not who breaks out the most. Yes, I dont have a s/ss number but I race where im the faster car and this new rule would possibly hurt me but I feel it levels the playing field a little.
I'm not sure what you are talking about???????????

Could you please explain your statement....

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Old 02-08-2016, 03:50 PM   #2
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Mike crosstalk = .5 tree, how? Faster car leaves on slow cars light, why, is it a distraction for the faster car to leave second? How did that happen. Looks like crosstalk is a rule for the faster cars


I still believe in Valentin's Day. Class winners fill the first spots at Indy and the remaining spots in the 128 car field filled by the fastest qualifiers. Walking the knife edge with the rule book. I always get beat at my best. Tru Start no!
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:51 PM   #3
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Mike crosstalk = .5 tree, how? Faster car leaves on slow cars light, why, is it a distraction for the faster car to leave second? How did that happen. Looks like crosstalk is a rule for the faster cars
That's correct. Before CrossTalk, drivers of the faster car could still leave off their opponent's top bulb, but had to look across the tree to the other lane's top bulb, and some drivers complained that the angle of the bulb made it difficult for the to crossover. Either that, or if they weren't crossing over, they had to deal with the distraction of the opponent's top light coming on just before their own.

In delay box classes running CrossTalk, both top bulbs light simultaneously. The slower car's tree comes down normal. The faster car's top bulb stays lit for the time difference between the dial-ins. With a crossover delay box, you enter BOTH dial-ins, and your standard delay. The box does the math and adds the additional delay if you're the faster car.

Try footbraking in a Box class! On rare occasions, I've had to chase somebody. After being CrossTalked a couple of times, I learned that I was .040-.045 like clockwork every time my top bulb was "hanging". (I don't block the tree) The last time it happened, I took a couple of extra bumps, stood on the converter, and stabbed it to come up .001. Ended up winning that day.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about???????????

Could you please explain your statement....

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Sorry I was bored and should have re-read my statement as it didn't make sense to me.
What I was getting at is the people complaining about worst red light rule should probably be complaining about worst break out rule also. Worst break out rule applies at finish line so why doesn't worst red light work on starting line? Both parts of track are very important in winning.
First to go red loses, so first to breakout should be the loser using the current red light theory.
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Sorry I was bored and should have re-read my statement as it didn't make sense to me.
What I was getting at is the people complaining about worst red light rule should probably be complaining about worst break out rule also. Worst break out rule applies at finish line so why doesn't worst red light work on starting line? Both parts of track are very important in winning.
First to go red loses, so first to breakout should be the loser using the current red light theory.

OK.................

I get it now.......

Worst break out = worst red light and both = a loss..............

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4444 Norman Marsden 791 Adam Emmer E4 -0.002 10.333 127.08 -0.007 10.140 131.13 SS/KA
This is 4th round in super stock. If truestart was in effect the outcome would be reversed.
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4444 Norman Marsden 791 Adam Emmer E4 -0.002 10.333 127.08 -0.007 10.140 131.13 SS/KA
This is 4th round in super stock. If truestart was in effect the outcome would be reversed.
Don Keen also fell to Abe Loewen in round 1 of SS, although Loewen's red was worse.
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The one NHRA Class I can see affected the most would be Comp Eliminator.
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If I am spotting a slower car, and catch a glimpse of their red light, I just leave. I'm not sitting there on the 2 step for nothing. I win, I'll go down there and practice putting a couple of feet on them at the stripe. My red will most always be worse than theirs. Depending on the handicap as to how much. I'm not the only one that does that. It may not reverse as many losses as some say. Since I normally leave first, I would still be in favor. I think if the red light display were delayed it would put an end to that. The worst red light rule, with the red light display delayed until after the second car leaves could not hurt a thing. Probably more fair. Guys with eight second cars may not be in favor for obvious reasons. Can't really argue it would not be fair, IMHO.
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