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Old 12-16-2007, 03:45 PM   #1
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Fuel injected cars (SOME of them anyway) will have an advantage, at least to begin with. The way to fix that would be to force them to trigger a review with the AHFS.
the LT1s just got hit with 5 HP (336 to 341) and we were at 325 when we were kicked out of the traditional stocker classes and given our own classes because of the bitches. So dont say "the AHFS needs to do it's job", i think it's working out just fine. And DONT tell me the 396's havn't made any more HP than they did when we were given our own FI classes. Since Top Stock became popular in D1, i've seen some really fast runs out of carburated cars, including mopars and fords.. not just 396's. Do any of you monkey's even race against LT1's or LS1's, or even the older TPI cars? Propbably not, especially that dope, GALE FORCE. haha nice bogus name you homo. The best part about this thread is the title, "domination of FI cars" when we havn't even raced together again in the traditional classes yet. Perhaps Gale Force is the second coming of Nostradomus?
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:05 PM   #2
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Billy you forgot to mention that genius Speedracer.......he loves to make little comments that insinuate this or that and probably races a Matchbox car........but it don't even run the index.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:10 PM   #3
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I race a SUPERCHARGED MACH 5 that is not in the classification sheets at this time,but I am working on getting a letter that will allow me to race it in A/SA through P/SA depending on how I want.

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Old 12-16-2007, 04:40 PM   #4
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I race a SUPERCHARGED MACH 5 that is not in the classification sheets at this time,but I am working on getting a letter that will allow me to race it in A/SA through P/SA depending on how I want.
Call Carrol Shelby and he should be able to set you up with the right paperwork. P/SA might be a little heavy at 6000lbs though........
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:04 PM   #5
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Call Carrol Shelby and he should be able to set you up with the right paperwork. P/SA might be a little heavy at 6000lbs though........
This Shelby bashing has to stop, I have heard stories about certan guys that knew people in GM that got all sorts of changes to cars that they were racing, PAPER UPDATES. IF YOU GUYS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO BUILD AN FE FORD, GO build one. How long is this crying going to go on for, and by some people WHO DON'T EVEN RACE STOCK. Enough is enough.



I don't race an FI car, but this is how I see it. The AFHS have been adjusting Combo's for a couple of years now. I remember in the 90's when the FI cars were real fast. I remember a Buick GN that ran H/SA and he used to run in the 10.80's BACK THEN. But today I don't see FI cars running away like that anymore, I think things have adjusted alot closer since that time. I don't know about SS but When a Tuneport 305 has as much power on it as a 283 with a 4GC thats kinda stupid and maybe the new AFHS will help balance that. Back to stock. Lets see what happens. In our sport not everybody is going to be happy, but they aren't supposed to be. I like the Idea that at Indy there might be 20+ cars in A B and C. More heads ups, more performance based racing. Thats a good thing. and if those cars runaway in the begining, in time they will be brought back in. The last thing, Racing an FI car has to be hard. The electronics are very complex ( I know because I'm an auto mechanic ) You have to be computer savy to tune and diag problems, when problems arrive you better be smart enough to fix em, and finally the cost is much higher to build ,race, and maintain them. I feel we need to let this play out and not jump to conclusions. IF THIS IS A GREAT CAN'T MISS THING, GO AND BUILD ONE.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:32 PM   #6
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Default Re: Dommination of FI cars.

Todd, it was meant as joke reply to a joke post. I know very little about the Ford combinations that appear to be a good bit faster than just about any other car at that weight break. Since I raced Stock in the era when those cars were new I can tell you I never saw one racing back then that I can recall.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:22 PM   #7
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I have run the LS1 cars for 4 years now . And they have been fast . However I can't run with the Div 1 Top stock guys under the current HP ratings. I also don't think I can run with them in A, and we can't out run Hawk in B might have a chance in C so I don't see were the FI cars will dominate.

1969 camaro 396/ 375 aluminum heads NHRA rated 395 plus 20hp 1hp per cubic inch

2002 SS camaro 346/ 325 all aluminum NHRA rated 364 plus 40hp 1.05 hp per cubic inch

and 50 more cubic inches for the 396 That a big disadvantage for the Fi car. Just my .2cents

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And if you like to crunch numbers....take a look at these..

67 shelby 428 automatic rated at 367 .85hp per cubic inch
67 shelby 428 manual rated at 358 .83hp per cubic inch
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