Torqueflite problem

[pfordamx]

We had always assumed the converter was to far out and caused this but it sounds like its more likely that it wasn't pulled out enough so once you have the converter seated and it in the car how much does it need to pull out i've heard you want about .125 thousandths play if i remember right?

[ss3011]

If you have a decent converter with anti-ballooning plates then if you have about .090" pull up you are probably OK . Your converter that has been run with the Stator Inner Race bottomed out on the Stator Support splines has probably damaged the splines inside the converter . It may be very difficult to re-install it , even if you installed a new Stator Support . It is also possible that the bearings inside the converter have been overloaded, and finally the engine thrust bearing could be hurt by running without any clearance . It would be to your advantage to check those things before just running it again .

[pfordamx]

the engine going back in the car is brand new and fresh never been ran the transmission and converter was spec'd for it but we put it behind a milder engine to make a race and now that engine has been completely gone through as well. but what i'm hearing is the converter probably needs to go back to tci to be checked out.

[Steve OB]

From personal experience, AMC converters are NEVER correct out of the box. We check everything now. Crank pilot length & diameter, End play between trans & converter, starter engagement etc. Don't take it for granted on anything AMC that is a direct fit. Not to sound like a negative Nancy but its a fact of owning an oddball.

[pfordamx]

Originally Posted by Steve OB

From personal experience, AMC converters are NEVER correct out of the box. We check everything now. Crank pilot length & diameter, End play between trans & converter, starter engagement etc. Don't take it for granted on anything AMC that is a direct fit. Not to sound like a negative Nancy but its a fact of owning an oddball.

I couldnt agree more there is no such thing as direct fit with amc. My father inlaw ask me once if the parts we used on our race car were direct fit designed for that car and i almost broke down in laughter

[Tom Goldman]

You guys are so right .
If it comes in a box and says fits AMC , you know it wont ! Especially if it comes from California !
I've been racing and building AMC's since '72 and there are damn few parts I didn't have to massage to make fit correctly.

[pfordamx]

well after a new stator shaft and inspection of the transmission we got the converter back in did some measuring and figured it was simply flush with the flexplate no pullout. so we took the converter and had .120 taken out of the mounting pads which should give as the play needed hopefully.