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Old 11-16-2016, 08:05 AM   #51
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older racer summed it up!
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:38 AM   #52
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David, I am not a fan of tru-start for NHRA class racing. If bracket racers like it and use it all well and good. I am not a bracket racer.

Now for the reason for my response. Don't give up on making your car faster, just keep working and thinking about it. It will get faster. It took us a year and a half to get the Cuda to run the 1/8 mile index. Then it was another year before it would run the 1/4 mile Index.

If you will, get your car running the index and race within the rules and then request changes in the rules package. You may find that tru-start is much about nothing.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:10 AM   #53
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The issue isn't in relation to his index, it's between faster and slower classes. A U/SA that is -1.2 will still leave before a +.10 A/SA and if red, will lose.

After 6 pages I think it's obvious it's not just one person pushing this, how many more have not responded because they don't want to get singled out as "one of them".

Either you believe the worst offender should be punished or you don't, period. Don't think those posting on here will change their minds as it's already made up, it's all the ones not posting that if there was a "vote", would silently vote for it.

Sound familiar?
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:13 AM   #54
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[QUOTE=Don't think those posting on here will change their minds as it's already made up, it's all the ones not posting that if there was a "vote", would silently vote for it.

Sound familiar?[/QUOTE]

I think there was an election a week ago with results like that?
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:24 AM   #55
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As a bracket racer I saw Tru- Start used at Norwalk for the Halloween Classic. I red lighted leaving 1st, green light was on, faster car was green. After my car shifted I looked up at scoreboard and his win light was on.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:56 AM   #56
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I rarely get involved in this stuff but this time this just keeps coming up. My car is kinda middle of the pack(H,I,J,/SA). Typically I spot about half the cars at a race and get spotted about half the time. There are advantages to running a fast car and other advantages to running a slow car. I prefer leaving first. I have a clean tree, no distractions from the movement of the other car, etc. if I drive my race, have a good light, run within .01 of my dial I'm going to win 90% of those races. If I leave early And red light I lose. I did not deserve to win. I have driven from South Florida and red lighted in Sonoma so I know better than most how costly it can be. I have been a Stock Eliminator racer since at least 1990(with a few years off) and ran Super Stock in the late 70's early 80's. When I first began racing Stock it took me a year to run the index. I have seen all sides of this and think we should leave things alone and race. Is the system perfect, maybe not but nothing is. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

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Old 11-16-2016, 10:12 AM   #57
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the guy at front of this post, does not run stock!! his car is over a second off the index. he rarely runs at his track, because his car does not launch very good, has no gears, weak engine. It's one of these, I can't win, so lets change the rules. the way we've raced is ok,. the slower car gets two chances to win, faster care has only one chance to win, In the make me feel good, is that fair?? NO. leave it alone!!! lets just go race!! end of rant!!
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:15 AM   #58
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I rarely get involved in this stuff but this time this just keeps coming up. My car is kinda middle of the pack(H,I,J,/SA). Typically I spot about half the cars at a race and get spotted about half the time. There are advantages to running a fast car and other advantages to running a slow car. I prefer leaving first. I have a clean tree, no distractions from the movement of the other car, etc. if I drive my race, have a good light, run within .01 of my dial I'm going to win 90% of those races. If I leave early And red light I lose. I did not deserve to win. I have driven from South Florida and red lighted in Sonoma so I know better than most how costly it can be. I have been a Stock Eliminator racer since at least 1990(with a few years off) and ran Super Stock in the late 70's early 80's. When I first began racing Stock it took me a year to run the index. I have seen all sides of this and think we should leave things alone and race. Is the system perfect, maybe not but nothing is. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:24 AM   #59
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Tru-Start sucks, while we're throughing out dumb ideas lets just put a wall up between the two lanes. This way if I break the guy in the other lane can't see me brake and I still have a chance to win by him breaking out. Becuse it's not fair if he looks over and sees I'm broke.

Funny most of the people wanting tru start on here I never see past the 3rd of an event.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:50 AM   #60
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Tru-Start sucks, while we're throughing out dumb ideas lets just put a wall up between the two lanes. This way if I break the guy in the other lane can't see me brake and I still have a chance to win by him breaking out. Becuse it's not fair if he looks over and sees I'm broke.

Funny most of the people wanting tru start on here I never see past the 3rd of an event.
HAHAHAHA damn just spit my drink out I will put a monkey on that wall with a radio
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