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Old 12-04-2016, 09:03 AM   #1
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maybe it's time to do whatever it is we would have to do to get our "NHRA Member" vote back!
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:03 AM   #2
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NHRA is failing from the top down and it's painfull to see and be a part of.

James post is spot on and tells it like it is....

In Oct. at Maple Grove, we spoke to one of our NHRA folks who does national events. They get paid a ridiculously low amount to work events and do it as many do more for the love of the sport and the people they are with....

Cutting costs by cutting personnel there is unwise....

They cut personnel that do story write-ups in ND after someone wins and that has had a very negative effect with anyone I talk to...

Winning an NHRA event used to be a big deal......pretty much any event they had...

It's nothing like it once was and it will cost them in the end if they continue as they are.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:23 AM   #3
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Wife is after me to quit racing. Maybe it's time. Sad deal.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:28 AM   #4
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A lot of good points here. I think NHRA needs to hear them, live, and in person.

It seems that several of us are going to the PRI Show, perhaps we should all get together and go to the NHRA booth.

A visit with NHRA to explain to them what WE spend in order to enjoy the sport, and what we are looking for, and feel what we are within reason in expecting from them when we get there.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:28 AM   #5
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Billy as usual is right on the money, time to give our vote back that they stole many years ago. I decided four years ago to stop supporting NHRA, no more paying for membership, I stop going to National events and attended mostly Divisionals because this is where you see and meet the real racers.In their income return you have to take into account the money losing ESPN TV broadcast that they produce for entising prospecting advertising dollars to help selling their shows and of course the Pro circuit. This is a bankrupt way of thinking that will only cause your business to fail, if your product is any good it will sell. I've seen a lot of business go this way. NASCA founder Bill France always made sure that the fannies in the seats counted more than any TV broadcast they could generate, he counted the tv revenue as a side order of fries. The problem I fear is that too many people at the top aren't invested in this sport, financially or practically. We need our voices to be heard, racers and fans. Claude R.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:53 AM   #6
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Lots of opinions but I haven't noticed anyone posting what they want from NHRA or what they want NHRA to do for the sportsman racers. By telling NHRA what the sportsman racers want (as a group and not 100's of different opinions) is a starting place to try to move this along.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:13 PM   #7
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NHRA was holding its head above water until this latest TV venture. It is costing them a bunch more money than they were first planning on. Thats right! NHRA has to pay to be on TV. You would think it would be the other way around but it is not. The money they take in at events is not covering what they are paying out for TV coverage. So where do the bean counters cut costs. Where else but in the Tech Dept. No tech at National events will save the company, so the bean counters think.

Of course we all know that will only bring on "National event chaos."
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:45 PM   #8
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You guys are waiting to talk to the wrong people. Instead of waiting for NHRA to listen, why not start talking to racers?

If there's one thing that this election cycle has taught us is that one guy with influence and leadership can mobilize a great many people who are sick and tired of being ignored and taken advantage of.

You have at least three serious hitters posting in this thread alone. If one or more starts mobilizing racers to boycott ALL national events this year, then perhaps NHRA will finally take notice.

For my money, I'd like to see that person create their own nationwide sportsman series that is indeed special for everyone. Look at what Pete Biondo has done with the Springfling, and others have done with Sports Nationals, etc.

Talk to Bader. Talk to Dave Ley. Talk to Mark Williams. Talk to all the companies that used to post contingency. Get them involved, get the tracks involved (Numidia stands out, and so do other tracks in D1 alone).

For some of you guys, you're seeing your livelihood at risk. Take a stand, and take the lead. People will listen to you.

From my point of view, NHRA represents California, which has become synonymous with austerity, mismanagement, and corruption.

You will never change NHRA unless they are hit seriously in the pocketbook. One million for a guy who had to step down for a substance abuse problem will look like a drop in the bucket compared to a nationwide boycott of racers. Who knows? You could end up creating a phenomenal series that benefits everyone, and everyone can feel good about, including sponsors and the tracks themselves.
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:54 PM   #9
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You guys are waiting to talk to the wrong people. Instead of waiting for NHRA to listen, why not start talking to racers?

If there's one thing that this election cycle has taught us is that one guy with influence and leadership can mobilize a great many people who are sick and tired of being ignored and taken advantage of.

You have at least three serious hitters posting in this thread alone. If one or more starts mobilizing racers to boycott ALL national events this year, then perhaps NHRA will finally take notice.

For my money, I'd like to see that person create their own nationwide sportsman series that is indeed special for everyone. Look at what Pete Biondo has done with the Springfling, and others have done with Sports Nationals, etc.

Talk to Bader. Talk to Dave Ley. Talk to Mark Williams. Talk to all the companies that used to post contingency. Get them involved, get the tracks involved (Numidia stands out, and so do other tracks in D1 alone).

For some of you guys, you're seeing your livelihood at risk. Take a stand, and take the lead. People will listen to you.

From my point of view, NHRA represents California, which has become synonymous with austerity, mismanagement, and corruption.

You will never change NHRA unless they are hit seriously in the pocketbook. One million for a guy who had to step down for a substance abuse problem will look like a drop in the bucket compared to a nationwide boycott of racers. Who knows? You could end up creating a phenomenal series that benefits everyone, and everyone can feel good about, including sponsors and the tracks themselves.

This is pretty good thinking.
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Old 12-04-2016, 02:13 PM   #10
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maybe it's time to do whatever it is we would have to do to get our "NHRA Member" vote back!


Could someone refresh me on how the board took over
& members lost their vote/voice.
Was it not on some small technicality.
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