Trustart Debate

[Rat Raceway]

Originally Posted by RobbieRacer

I'm all for both red lights go home.
And no 1st or worst.

^This

[Dale Hulquist]

When is this nonsense going to end with a few trying to change the sport for the masses, if this format that has been used for many years and, is currently the format of choice by NHRA and its members does not suit your style of racing then GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. Why isn't there 4 outs in baseball, why don't they shorten the field for overweight people in soccer, maybe some would prefer no tackle football, please stop trying to change the sport that so many have come to enjoy. My 2 cents

[Joe Martens]

Originally Posted by Dale Hulquist

When is this nonsense going to end with a few trying to change the sport for the masses, if this format that has been used for many years and, is currently the format of choice by NHRA and its members does not suit your style of racing then GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. Why isn't there 4 outs in baseball, why don't they shorten the field for overweight people in soccer, maybe some would prefer no tackle football, please stop trying to change the sport that so many have come to enjoy. My 2 cents

Great post, Dale!!!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dale Hulquist

When is this nonsense going to end with a few trying to change the sport for the masses, if this format that has been used for many years and, is currently the format of choice by NHRA and its members does not suit your style of racing then GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I'm OK with that. BUT while we're "not changing the sport for the masses" why don't we go back to the REAL engine parts that came on a Stocker, 7"slicks and while we're at it, let's stop prepping the track! I hope that I don't get in trouble with Kenny but you guys are like a bunch of dam**d Democrats! You voted but it's not a real vote so it doesn't count.
I really don't care one way or the other which way this goes. It won't determine whether I race or not BUT if you look at it in the right perspective, once the first (slow) car turns on the red light, the race is over. In reality, the second (fast) car can take the green light and back up and not even make the run. This is the only situation in handicap racing (short of the first car hitting the guard rail or crossing the centerline before the second cars green light comes on, not likely) where the race is over immediately.
With that being said, I must say that I asked one of the best Racers that I know why every time he raced me, he had a terrible light. He told me that my car passing behind the tree distracted him. I'll give you that one but when was the last time that a Driver in a fast car worried about what the wind was doing or had to change his dial because the Track Crew just prepped he track in the middle of a round?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I'm OK with that. BUT while we're "not changing the sport for the masses" why don't we go back to the REAL engine parts that came on a Stocker, 7"slicks and while we're at it, let's stop prepping the track! I hope that I don't get in trouble with Kenny but you guys are like a bunch of dam**d Democrats! You voted but it's not a real vote so it doesn't count.
I really don't care one way or the other which way this goes. It won't determine whether I race or not BUT if you look at it in the right perspective, once the first (slow) car turns on the red light, the race is over. In reality, the second (fast) car can take the green light and back up and not even make the run. This is the only situation in handicap racing (short of the first car hitting the guard rail or crossing the centerline before the second cars green light comes on, not likely) where the race is over immediately.
With that being said, I must say that I asked one of the best Racers that I know why every time he raced me, he had a terrible light. He told me that my car passing behind the tree distracted him. I'll give you that one but when was the last time that a Driver in a fast car worried about what the wind was doing or had to change his dial because the Track Crew just prepped he track in the middle of a round?

Bill the 7" tire and non prep are safety issues not whining about someone getting an "unfair" advantage. Bill like you I had to worry about wind problems myself but most times I had the good fortune of making the right call. When I didn't I packed up and went home I didn't curse Mother Nature.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Bill like you I had to worry about wind problems myself but most times I had the good fortune of making the right call. When I didn't I packed up and went home I didn't curse Mother Nature.

Eddie, I think that you know me better than that. I'm not "cursing Mother Nature". I'm trying to make a point. There have been literally thousands of changes in just the last 10-20 years from the "liberalization" of our rules to the "liberalization" of our replacement parts acceptance.
And you had to bring up the 7" tire deal and track prep being a "safety issue" huh? Well, write this one down Sparky, in a year or two tops, all of these new 7 and 8 second FX and FXX cars will have 10.5 tires in the name of "safety"!

[Jason]

At first they will get 10.5's but then start crying for the 10.5W, once again in the name of "safety."

[Jeff Stout]

You guys are not suggesting that the fast guys changing tire rule is about personal agenda? If I remember SOME of the fast guys were crying that Tru Start was about slow cars personal agenda and to go away and quit whining. Never seen a single sided double edge sword. Amazing

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Dale Hulquist

When is this nonsense going to end with a few trying to change the sport for the masses, if this format that has been used for many years and, is currently the format of choice by NHRA and its members does not suit your style of racing then GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE. Why isn't there 4 outs in baseball, why don't they shorten the field for overweight people in soccer, maybe some would prefer no tackle football, please stop trying to change the sport that so many have come to enjoy. My 2 cents

I'm with Dale.

As I mentioned before, we could just start giving everybody a trophy.

[jmantle]

John, as you might have noticed this subject is some what like the US election, strong opinions on both sides and very entertaining. If asked, I would probably vote for tru start as someday it might put the results of a round in my favor but in all honesty, I can't remember losing a round where this would of had an effect.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632