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Old 02-11-2017, 02:31 PM   #1
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Default Re: SS round two

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Some pertinent questions:

Is there anyone on the control deck in the tower that even knows what the E.T. indexes for O/SA and SS/JA are?

Is there a printed list of indexes hanging on the wall?

Does anyone in the tower at a national event understand how allowing competitors to dial over the index might impact the outcome of a pairing? An event? A season?

And, the most biggest question of all:

Does anyone care?

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Should I take the last one first? Nah

I haven't run in to this one personally, in my own dealings.

I would assume all dial-ins have to be entered manually. Would there then be a safeguard in the software that wouldn't allow over- the- index dials?

Would that be too much to expect for a professional motor sports organization, such as NHRA?

Answers not needed.
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:10 PM   #2
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Tim did have 10.30 on his window. They put 11.30 as his dial in .

He missed it and I missed it.

I'll let him post what he was told but basically what we all know you buy it when you stage.
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:27 PM   #3
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Tim did have 10.30 on his window. They put 11.30 as his dial in .

He missed it and I missed it.

I'll let him post what he was told but basically what we all know you buy it when you stage.
So was he a DQ for dialing over and what happened in the 1st round of stock????

I don't know how they can fix the Lindy and Nan race??????

Even if he red lighted the incorrect over index dial occurred first and Lindy should have gone into the next round...

Nan didn't do anything wrong she put the correct number on the car, which NHRA didn't enter correctly which she didn't catch before staging. The only thing that Nan did wrong was to trust that NHRA would do their job correctly.
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Old 02-11-2017, 05:28 PM   #4
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No dq.
He lost because he broke out.
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Old 02-11-2017, 06:04 PM   #5
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Final answer, they (NHRA) don't care.....
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Alright..Let me try this..Correct me if I'm wrong.
Nanette gets an extra second head start.
Lindy is waiting to close up on her. It never happens ..He throws in the towel, thinking she's breaking out ,big time.
He breaks out anyway, coasting . He loses.
NHRA software allows this.
Doesn't seem right ..Re-run..(Ain't gonna happen..they're behind with the Pros..

Yeah? No?
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No dq.
He lost because he broke out.

OK.......

Thanks, Mike.....

I will wait until I find out how NHRA is going to fix the first round race in Stock.......

In SS the correct car won that round (by accident) because of the break out.....

But in Stock the wrong car won because of the dial over, she was first or worst...

NHRA never ceases to amaze me….
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I know this is the thread for SS round but the question about what went wrong in stock was asked here.
1) If 1 car dialed slower then index on window then the driver should be dq'd and other car would be re-instated.
2) If car had correct dial under for class and scoreboard was wrong then the race winner is correct as winning car accepted wrong dial because other car red lighted.
The only way to know what was correct is by knowing what dial was written on window. Then the correct outcome of race can be determined.
Obviously the system does not have a fail safe for slower then index to show up on scoreboard. Its sad that it happened twice in 1 day, 1 event. Sounds like a human error in more then 1 way.
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Default Re: SS round two

A good reason to legibly write your dial in on the window. I`ve used a dial in board velcroed to the window for years to avoid any issues.
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I know this is the thread for SS round but the question about what went wrong in stock was asked here.
1) If 1 car dialed slower then index on window then the driver should be dq'd and other car would be re-instated.
2) If car had correct dial under for class and scoreboard was wrong then the race winner is correct as winning car accepted wrong dial because other car red lighted.
The only way to know what was correct is by knowing what dial was written on window. Then the correct outcome of race can be determined.
Obviously the system does not have a fail safe for slower then index to show up on scoreboard. Its sad that it happened twice in 1 day, 1 event. Sounds like a human error in more then 1 way.
That's what I was thinking! Shouldn't the dial in be blinking red if its above the class index????
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