SS round two

MikeMoller · 02-12-2017, 08:54 AM

Rule book doesn't address a 'dial-over' situation. Since both incorrect dials were caused by the tower I guess it is a valid race, the standard rules apply. So stock race result was decided by a foul and SS by breakout (worst). Seems NHRA should amend the rules to include a competitor posting a 'dial-over'.

Billy Nees · 02-12-2017, 09:07 AM

Ya know, you're right! I just looked through a 2015 Rule Book and nowhere did it say that you HAVE to dial the index or below! It only says it's BASED on an index system and that you CAN dial below it. It doesn't say that you CAN'T dial above!

Bryan Worner · 02-12-2017, 09:47 AM

Soooooo, lets say he sees the mistake on the board on his way down track, slams on the brakes and runs 11.300. What happens then???? Would there be a rerun because someone in the tower screwed up his dial with an "illegal" dial? I would love to hear that answer!

Jeff Stout · 02-12-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Soooooo, lets say he sees the mistake on the board on his way down track, slams on the brakes and runs 11.300. What happens then???? Would there be a rerun because someone in the tower screwed up his dial with an "illegal" dial? I would love to hear that answer!

I don't have a rule book to look at but I feel that you have to dial index or faster. As long as car was dialed correct you can run any ET that it takes to win the race. When car is dialed correct and scoreboard is wrong and driver stages car the outcome is the outcome. No reruns or do overs needed.

Jeff Stout · 02-12-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeMoller

Rule book doesn't address a 'dial-over' situation. Since both incorrect dials were caused by the tower I guess it is a valid race, the standard rules apply. So stock race result was decided by a foul and SS by breakout (worst). Seems NHRA should amend the rules to include a competitor posting a 'dial-over'.

I wasn't there to witness event but I feel car WAS dialed correctly and tower inserted a wrong dial that became slower then index of that car. ALWAYS drivers responsibility to verify dial on scoreboard. If driver did dial over index that is something that needs to be addressed.

Bob Mulry · 02-12-2017, 01:09 PM

There is also another rule book that NHRA has....

It the competition rule book.....

Very hard to get a look at.....

But if NHRA is pressed they could come up chapter and verse regarding over index dial ins....

There is also an urban legend that a Super Stock racer came into his or her possession, a very long time ago, a copy of this competition rules book....

It's not the drivers responsibility to know what the index is of the car in the other lane or to check their dial in....

This reason that we have the NHRA is to make sure that the racing is conducted fairly..

If there are no rules we are back to street racing..

It looks like there should be a computer up date for the Compulink timing system, in order to prevent over index dials...

This can be done when the system is updated to include the TruStart system........

Just sayin'
Bob

PS:
Couldn't help myself....

PPS:
I also know that some racers would think it's OK to dial in over the index because it is only a bracket race........................

Hacksaw · 02-12-2017, 04:59 PM

So what if you dial slower than your index, as long as the computer/tower people enter the published/proper index and let the race proceed as it should, I'm ok with it. Just don't be a doodle and Ph#*^ up.

Bob Mulry · 02-12-2017, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hacksaw

So what if you dial slower than your index, as long as the computer/tower people enter the published/proper index and let the race proceed as it should, I'm ok with it. Just don't be a doodle and Ph#*^ up.

Just go back to ET2 and it doesn't matter...............

Tom Meyer · 02-12-2017, 05:24 PM

This happened a long time ago [I guess I am old] But I think it was at Div race where in the third round someone noticed that the other car was dailed above the index and brought to the attention of a official where the driver was reinstated kind of like being lite at the scales but nothing was said about the 2 cars he had beat in the previous rounds. Not to knock anyone but if you run the class you should be class racer smart.
On another note was watching the Ihra race at Florida and they where running super rod [super gas] and the announcer said not to many dragsters in this class,even I know the driver has to be on the left side of the driveshaft. Tom

Jeff Stout · 02-12-2017, 05:24 PM

So now no tech, dial slower then index. I can see gutted interior, square tube frame, fiberglass panels running in stock as long as it has a 9 inch tire and a weight sticker. I agree Bracket II here we come.

02-12-2017, 08:54 AM	#1
MikeMoller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 637 Likes: 27 Liked 254 Times in 78 Posts	Re: SS round two Rule book doesn't address a 'dial-over' situation. Since both incorrect dials were caused by the tower I guess it is a valid race, the standard rules apply. So stock race result was decided by a foul and SS by breakout (worst). Seems NHRA should amend the rules to include a competitor posting a 'dial-over'. __________________ Mike Moller NHRA 203 Q-R-T/SA

02-12-2017, 09:07 AM	#2
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,499 Likes: 3,601 Liked 7,783 Times in 1,743 Posts	Re: SS round two Ya know, you're right! I just looked through a 2015 Rule Book and nowhere did it say that you HAVE to dial the index or below! It only says it's BASED on an index system and that you CAN dial below it. It doesn't say that you CAN'T dial above! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

02-12-2017, 09:47 AM	#3
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 136 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: SS round two Soooooo, lets say he sees the mistake on the board on his way down track, slams on the brakes and runs 11.300. What happens then???? Would there be a rerun because someone in the tower screwed up his dial with an "illegal" dial? I would love to hear that answer!

02-12-2017, 01:09 PM	#6
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: SS round two There is also another rule book that NHRA has.... It the competition rule book..... Very hard to get a look at..... But if NHRA is pressed they could come up chapter and verse regarding over index dial ins.... There is also an urban legend that a Super Stock racer came into his or her possession, a very long time ago, a copy of this competition rules book.... It's not the drivers responsibility to know what the index is of the car in the other lane or to check their dial in.... This reason that we have the NHRA is to make sure that the racing is conducted fairly.. If there are no rules we are back to street racing.. It looks like there should be a computer up date for the Compulink timing system, in order to prevent over index dials... This can be done when the system is updated to include the TruStart system........ Just sayin' Bob PS: Couldn't help myself.... PPS: I also know that some racers would think it's OK to dial in over the index because it is only a bracket race........................ __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports Last edited by Bob Mulry; 02-12-2017 at 01:12 PM. Reason: Only Bracket Race

02-12-2017, 04:59 PM	#7
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 884 Likes: 209 Liked 311 Times in 175 Posts	Re: SS round two So what if you dial slower than your index, as long as the computer/tower people enter the published/proper index and let the race proceed as it should, I'm ok with it. Just don't be a doodle and Ph#*^ up.

02-12-2017, 05:24 PM	#9
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: SS round two This happened a long time ago [I guess I am old] But I think it was at Div race where in the third round someone noticed that the other car was dailed above the index and brought to the attention of a official where the driver was reinstated kind of like being lite at the scales but nothing was said about the 2 cars he had beat in the previous rounds. Not to knock anyone but if you run the class you should be class racer smart. On another note was watching the Ihra race at Florida and they where running super rod [super gas] and the announcer said not to many dragsters in this class,even I know the driver has to be on the left side of the driveshaft. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 02-12-2017 at 05:54 PM.

02-12-2017, 05:24 PM	#10
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,488 Likes: 66 Liked 705 Times in 282 Posts	Re: SS round two So now no tech, dial slower then index. I can see gutted interior, square tube frame, fiberglass panels running in stock as long as it has a 9 inch tire and a weight sticker. I agree Bracket II here we come.

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