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Old 04-15-2017, 07:28 AM   #1
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

I like class being laddered, if its done correctly its simple and fast if not its a cluster. I have no problem running the class entered. Possible draw backs; some one has hit your combination after entering and car will not "fit" the class that it was originally entered, remember the adjustments for a 1.20 under run is posted on Tuesday. Mid year AHFS adjustments change the class the car will "fit'', and you entered three weeks earlier before the category closed in a different class.

If racers can change classes on Monday of the event week, will it cause system overload?

I bet Toby can do it!
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Old 04-15-2017, 07:44 AM   #2
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I'm confused... I don't see any relationship between what class you run and the timeliness of getting a ladder done...You still have to make a run first...I get it that some of the NHRA tracks still use Dos as an operating system, but in our current day and age of technology ...come on , give me a break,... most of the new cars engine management systems could generate a ladder! This sounds like some BS thing, a self serving racer has thought up to try and hide from the faster cars in their class before they enter a National Event.

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Old 04-15-2017, 08:05 AM   #3
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HOW ABOUT THIS - Just to make things simpler (faster) for the sanctioning bodies - Why don't we register our cars at the beginning of each year !... You must declare the year, make , and model, and THE CLASS you're running for that year. Then you get you a certification sticker - No changes until January 1 the following year. LMFAO ......
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Old 04-15-2017, 08:33 AM   #4
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

I say don't change it. Just improve the process to ladder the cars. It can't be too difficult to have software done or some other automated process.

Even if they had to export the qualifying to excel and sort it, it would not take long.

The biggest challenge I saw at Gainesville for class was poor communication between the tower and the people working in the lanes.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:40 AM   #5
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I say don't change it. Just improve the process to ladder the cars. It can't be too difficult to have software done or some other automated process.

Even if they had to export the qualifying to excel and sort it, it would not take long.

The biggest challenge I saw at Gainesville for class was poor communication between the tower and the people working in the lanes.
I agree...leave it alone....
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:43 AM   #6
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Ummm, bring Red back?
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:06 AM   #7
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I agree......leave it alone!
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:19 AM   #8
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.
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Old 04-15-2017, 12:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

Sounds to me like they're just trying to knock someone else off the payroll.
Meanwhile, they're turning away class cars that want to pay and race with them.
Should get more for your money..not less.
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Leave it alone!! If the situation warrants only one run be made then that is the run used for the ladder. If you want to change classes, it must be done before any qualifying runs are made. No need to complicate things! Our Association can do ladders that include NHRA, IHRA and NMCA combos either by computer or by hand with simple algorithms. We have even used the ping pong ball style pairing just for fun many times. Point being, anyone with average math competence and a lap top can do a ladder quickly. Why is it so hard all of a sudden? Jim

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