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Old 04-15-2017, 08:33 AM   #1
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

I say don't change it. Just improve the process to ladder the cars. It can't be too difficult to have software done or some other automated process.

Even if they had to export the qualifying to excel and sort it, it would not take long.

The biggest challenge I saw at Gainesville for class was poor communication between the tower and the people working in the lanes.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:40 AM   #2
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I say don't change it. Just improve the process to ladder the cars. It can't be too difficult to have software done or some other automated process.

Even if they had to export the qualifying to excel and sort it, it would not take long.

The biggest challenge I saw at Gainesville for class was poor communication between the tower and the people working in the lanes.
I agree...leave it alone....
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:43 AM   #3
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Ummm, bring Red back?
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:06 AM   #4
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I agree......leave it alone!
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:19 AM   #5
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We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:36 AM   #6
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Would leave alone and ladder the cars for Class Eliminations. Need to have resources to manage the race on staff

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Old 04-15-2017, 01:44 PM   #7
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We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.
I agree with Sean. One would think the racers can handle things accordingly! It would also be nice if we could run class in the correct order at the US Nationals (ie...GT/MA, GT/LA, GT/KA, etc). However, for some reason, we're not able to do that ourselves! It baffles me every year!
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Old 04-19-2017, 02:05 PM   #8
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.




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I agree with Sean. One would think the racers can handle things accordingly! It would also be nice if we could run class in the correct order at the US Nationals (ie...GT/MA, GT/LA, GT/KA, etc). However, for some reason, we're not able to do that ourselves! It baffles me every year!

99% of racers could.Then their is the guy who would drive up the staging lanes and not be pair with his opponent.Take win light while buddy is looking for him still in the lanes.
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Old 04-20-2017, 08:59 PM   #9
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99% of racers could.Then their is the guy who would drive up the staging lanes and not be pair with his opponent.Take win light while buddy is looking for him still in the lanes.
This actually happened to me one year at Vegas. There were 9 cars in B/SA that year. While everybody was walking back to their car after we sorted out the B/SA pairings sheet my opponent drove to the head of the lanes and took the single that belonged to Jimmy DeFrank who was qualified #1 in our group. Everybody else paired up correctly and I was left holding the bag wondering what I should do. In the end I waited for Jimmy (who wasn't ready since he was supposed to have a single and was blocked by other cars) Having won Class at Vegas previously I didn't really want to race him in the first round and hadn't set my car on "Kill!"

The lane marshaller finally told me if I didn't move up I would be DQ'd along with my missing opponent. I drug my feet long enough for him to make it forward and go under the arch. My reward for being a nice guy - I got showered by a fusillade of dry ice at the big end from under his hood as I watched him take the stripe from a car length behind. That is one fast Camaro btw.....

As for my erstwhile opponent who took Jimmy's single....I don't think he's racing any longer and I don't miss him a bit.
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Default Re: Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

Sounds to me like they're just trying to knock someone else off the payroll.
Meanwhile, they're turning away class cars that want to pay and race with them.
Should get more for your money..not less.
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