Input on Stk/SS ladders in Class Eliminations

[Marty Buth]

I agree......leave it alone!

[Sean Cour]

We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.

[Don Turk]

Would leave alone and ladder the cars for Class Eliminations. Need to have resources to manage the race on staff

Don

[SS3718]

Originally Posted by Sean Cour

We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.

I agree with Sean. One would think the racers can handle things accordingly! It would also be nice if we could run class in the correct order at the US Nationals (ie...GT/MA, GT/LA, GT/KA, etc). However, for some reason, we're not able to do that ourselves! It baffles me every year!

[dartman]

We're all adults here.....well, most of us. I think we can pair ourselves per the q sheet hanging on the trailer door/window. Keep it the same and police the pairings ourselves. It's really not that hard.

Originally Posted by SS3718

I agree with Sean. One would think the racers can handle things accordingly! It would also be nice if we could run class in the correct order at the US Nationals (ie...GT/MA, GT/LA, GT/KA, etc). However, for some reason, we're not able to do that ourselves! It baffles me every year!

99% of racers could.Then their is the guy who would drive up the staging lanes and not be pair with his opponent.Take win light while buddy is looking for him still in the lanes.

[Carl Battis]

Originally Posted by dartman

99% of racers could.Then their is the guy who would drive up the staging lanes and not be pair with his opponent.Take win light while buddy is looking for him still in the lanes.

This actually happened to me one year at Vegas. There were 9 cars in B/SA that year. While everybody was walking back to their car after we sorted out the B/SA pairings sheet my opponent drove to the head of the lanes and took the single that belonged to Jimmy DeFrank who was qualified #1 in our group. Everybody else paired up correctly and I was left holding the bag wondering what I should do. In the end I waited for Jimmy (who wasn't ready since he was supposed to have a single and was blocked by other cars) Having won Class at Vegas previously I didn't really want to race him in the first round and hadn't set my car on "Kill!"

The lane marshaller finally told me if I didn't move up I would be DQ'd along with my missing opponent. I drug my feet long enough for him to make it forward and go under the arch. My reward for being a nice guy - I got showered by a fusillade of dry ice at the big end from under his hood as I watched him take the stripe from a car length behind. That is one fast Camaro btw.....

As for my erstwhile opponent who took Jimmy's single....I don't think he's racing any longer and I don't miss him a bit.

[Mark Yacavone]

Sounds to me like they're just trying to knock someone else off the payroll.
Meanwhile, they're turning away class cars that want to pay and race with them.
Should get more for your money..not less.
NO!

[Ed Carpenter]

Maybe nhra should give Bobby Fazio a call he can help them with ladders........

[Jim Wahl]

Leave it alone!! If the situation warrants only one run be made then that is the run used for the ladder. If you want to change classes, it must be done before any qualifying runs are made. No need to complicate things! Our Association can do ladders that include NHRA, IHRA and NMCA combos either by computer or by hand with simple algorithms. We have even used the ping pong ball style pairing just for fun many times. Point being, anyone with average math competence and a lap top can do a ladder quickly. Why is it so hard all of a sudden? Jim

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[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Leave it alone!! If the situation warrants only one run be made then that is the run used for the ladder. If you want to change classes, it must be done before any qualifying runs are made. No need to complicate things! Our Association can do ladders that include NHRA, IHRA and NMCA combos either by computer or by hand with simple algorithms. We have even used the ping pong ball style pairing just for fun many times. Point being, anyone with average math competence and a lap top can do a ladder quickly. Why is it so hard all of a sudden? Jim

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I surely don't know, Jim.
If they get a little behind with weather, the first thing they do is cancel Class anyway.