The Future Of Stock

[Dan Fahey]

The Future of Stock lies in new blood...

Having the Manufactures send in the Specs on the New Cars so they can be adopted into Pure Stock.
Think is will bring a lot of new kids in who can afford these hotrods.
Remember the tracks in the early 70's were packed.

For the new cars suggest Bolt on Mods...
No mods under the Valve Covers...
Headers, Mufflers, Tune, Converter, Tires..
No Roll Bar, NO Race Fuel..
Most of the new hotrods run well into the 11's, 12's and 13's in Stock form.

Lot of racers would love to buy one of these new rods and run Pure Stock.
IHRA just does not have the depth to handle this influx.
Too hard to get specs from the manufacturers.

Know there is a huge market for the new generation Chevy SS, Camaros, Dodges Demon and Fords who want to compete against each other.


D

[skills]

Billy, I understand what your saying, but getting the manufactures in would be a win for everybody involved. The pros can't fill their fields now, because their isn't enought sponsor dollars to go around. Nhra missed the target with all access also. Show Sunday live online, maybe do a sportsmen Internet show. Follow a class racer for a year, say the Fletcher family. People love that stuff look at street outlwas and all the car shows. You have to show people there is more than just nitro going on. Stock needs more options for young people to race. Perhaps find a sponsor for stock/ super stock and up the payouts. Pay for number 1 qualifier, and class records. Pay for best appearing car and crew. Even if it is say 250 bucks that is something. People want to feel wanted and will show up. Push the entries back to 90-100 cars, yet the show prove itself.

[Bob Mulry]

Wow I can't believe that everybody missed it........................

NHRA does not want Stock & Super Stock Eliminator to survive......

NHRA sets quota that are so low that the quota in itself eliminates heads up runs...

If NHRA sets a quota of 65 cars in an eliminator that contains 67 different classes how can we hope to have heads up racing....

It appears that NHRA has a plan and Stock Eliminator is not part of that plan...

If NHRA had an interest in undoing the damage that they have done with not allowing Stock & Super Stock to race because they are unable to gain entry to National events, they could undo it with the stroke of their pen or keyboard....

NHRA just has to open the entry up to ALL Stock & Super Stock class cars that have at least 1 grade point. The reason for the 1 grade point is get the NEW racers trained in NHRA procedures...

It appears that NHRA only cares about the timing of their TV dog and pony show and Stock & Super Stock are nothing more than a minor inconvenience..

The racers want Stock & Super Stock but NHRA doesn't....

I don't know how to fix this but it appears that the problem is caused by, and can only be fixed by NHRA....

Maybe grass roots will take over and we will re-start after NHRA goes under...

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Wow I can't believe that everybody missed it........................

NHRA does not want Stock & Super Stock Eliminator to survive......

NHRA sets quota that are so low that the quota in itself eliminates heads up runs...

If NHRA sets a quota of 65 cars in an eliminator that contains 67 different classes how can we hope to have heads up racing....

It appears that NHRA has a plan and Stock Eliminator is not part of that plan...

If NHRA had an interest in undoing the damage that they have done with not allowing Stock & Super Stock to race because they are unable to gain entry to National events, they could undo it with the stroke of their pen or keyboard....

NHRA just has to open the entry up to ALL Stock & Super Stock class cars that have at least 1 grade point. The reason for the 1 grade point is get the NEW racers trained in NHRA procedures...

It appears that NHRA only cares about the timing of their TV dog and pony show and Stock & Super Stock are nothing more than a minor inconvenience..

The racers want Stock & Super Stock but NHRA doesn't....

I don't know how to fix this but it appears that the problem is caused by, and can only be fixed by NHRA....

Maybe grass roots will take over and we will re-start after NHRA goes under...

I disagree, we for now are a necessary evil. They need us to pay the bills and until something else comes along they must have us along with the other sportsman classes to find the rest of the circus. No sportsman would end the whole thing and they are not that foolish.

[Evan Smith]

To Bob and the others,

There's more to life than racing an NHRA national event. Yes, the quota stink, I hate the fact that there are so few S/SS cars left by Saturday afternoon.

Still, simply complaining doesn't do any good. News flash: You can race your Stocker or Super Stocker at NHRA Opens, Divisionals, with the new NMCA Stock/SS class, and the multitude of regional sanctions. So, just because a limited number of racers can race a national doesn't mean the sport is dead.

My story was meant to shed light on the class and to perhaps look at ways to grow participation affordably by considering rule changes to better fit the times.

Evan

[Paradigm Shift]

The opening line from Mr. Mulry sums it up completely.

I firmly believe Stock and Super Stock are much more than minor inconveniences to those at the NHRA.

Pragmatically, Stock is burdensome. The price of dealing with the burden may very soon become more than NHRA is willing to pay, regardless of the revenue generated from Stock racers.

The denial is palpable. It has to be realized that no one wants to watch class racing, whether on TV, the Internet or at the track. That is, no one other than the current club members and even then probably a rather small percentage would view special programming or features.

This is merely a very expensive albeit enjoyable, self-serving endeavor with very little promotional opportunity.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

The Future of Stock lies in new blood...

Having the Manufactures send in the Specs on the New Cars so they can be adopted into Pure Stock.
Think is will bring a lot of new kids in who can afford these hotrods.
Remember the tracks in the early 70's were packed.

For the new cars suggest Bolt on Mods...
No mods under the Valve Covers...
Headers, Mufflers, Tune, Converter, Tires..
No Roll Bar, NO Race Fuel..
Most of the new hotrods run well into the 11's, 12's and 13's in Stock form.

Lot of racers would love to buy one of these new rods and run Pure Stock.
IHRA just does not have the depth to handle this influx.
Too hard to get specs from the manufacturers.

Know there is a huge market for the new generation Chevy SS, Camaros, Dodges Demon and Fords who want to compete against each other.


D

Daniel, Are you going to be the one to tell these kids they can't change the pulleys or throttle bodies? LOL

Seriously though, these guys are used to leaving home on a Friday afternoon, and being home the same night.
Wait till they find out how much it costs to play with NHRA.
Fact of the matter, as stated by Bob M., they don't want these cars at national meets.

"No time, ..No time..got, got, got no time..."

[Ed Carpenter]

I'm all for.combining sticks and autos but no weight breaks for autos. Same weight for both. Auto are equally fast and in some cases faster.

[Jeff Teuton]

FS classes stick and auto are already combined, seems to work ok.

[James Perrone]

You want more participation GET OFF INTERWEB..
Same people crying about same things Most of you have quit already
Yet still so bitter about grade points.If it was easy EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT
Please Ken can we get a PURE STOCK section just for Dan his opinion is self serving