My proposal to NHRA

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter

Will go out tomorrow. I submitted over 150 emails to fellow stock as super stock racers for feedback after reviewing proposal I sent them. I'd say it was about 90% positive. The biggest negative was for my proposal to add class to 3 division races per division per year. Got a lot of.negative feedback saying it would add another day to races and most didn't want it. So I removed it. I did have some interesting comments. One said if class eliminations was added to division races they would quit. Other said my points for qualifying was bad because only 150,000 factory cars would get all the points. Oh well cant make everyone happy. Like I said most really liked it including some of the SRAC members. Thanks for the input. Ed

I would have been for the class racing at Divisionals but I wasn't asked. Jim

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[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

I would have been for the class racing at Divisionals but I wasn't asked. Jim

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Go to pg.2 read my thread Let's talk about setting records. I clearly asked for everyone's opinion on the topics. I also sent out over 170 emails with about 60 not returned. So either their busy or dont care.......

[Blackgar]

Just asking, what would running class at divisionals do for the racer aside from torturing the cars. Currently the number of contingency sponsors has dropped to the lowest level that I have seen in 40 years of racing
Why not first ask nhra to cut the classes back to say 40. Run a/t & sticks together, put the modified cars in comp, & combine the factory cars in with Gt or s/s, then try to get sponsors to pay class again. Do I currently have a car that could win class, no, not by any streach. But if the classes were cut back I would bet a big number that want class would bail

For the sake of the class this is the direction we should be following, adding a class for every new car certainly hasn't worked

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Blackgar

Just asking, what would running class at divisionals do for the racer aside from torturing the cars. Currently the number of contingency sponsors has dropped to the lowest level that I have seen in 40 years of racing
Why not first ask nhra to cut the classes back to say 40. Run a/t & sticks together, put the modified cars in comp, & combine the factory cars in with Gt or s/s, then try to get sponsors to pay class again. Do I currently have a car that could win class, no, not by any streach. But if the classes were cut back I would bet a big number that want class would bail

For the sake of the class this is the direction we should be following, adding a class for every new car certainly hasn't worked

Like I said due to all the negativity (like you) I dropped it from my final proposal (I wasn't going to but ill post it on here). Like I have told many people feel free to write your own proposal to nhra. I'm actually trying to do something. Just like when I ran my SS/K shootout raising over 7000.00 for fellow racers for one class there was still.bitching.......

PS Graham Light email is glight@nhra.com
. Peter Clifford email pclifford@nhra.com
. Danny Gracia email dgracia@nhra.com
. Glen Gray email ggray@nhra.com

Write away!

[Blackgar]

Ed, not negative or bitchin. Just trying to make sense out of one class having 122 individual categories. No contingency sponsor could afford to pay this on a consistent basis.

Cudos to you on the points for record setting. I don't disagree with all of your proposal, just the class thing.

Ps we have presented the number of classes thing to NHRA

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by Blackgar

Just asking, what would running class at divisionals do for the racer aside from torturing the cars. Currently the number of contingency sponsors has dropped to the lowest level that I have seen in 40 years of racing
Why not first ask nhra to cut the classes back to say 40. Run a/t & sticks together, put the modified cars in comp, & combine the factory cars in with Gt or s/s, then try to get sponsors to pay class again. Do I currently have a car that could win class, no, not by any streach. But if the classes were cut back I would bet a big number that want class would bail

For the sake of the class this is the direction we should be following, adding a class for every new car certainly hasn't worked

Forgive me because I'm new to this and learning. Why do I keep reading about people wanting to combine the autos and sticks? And what would be the appeal to reduce classes?

[ALMACK]

Thank you Ed for your hard work.
Hope NHRA listens to you and some positives come out of all this.

[Everett Vassar]

I think running class at divisionals would be a hoot. I have a lot of money in my car,but I bring it to the track TO RACE IT without a lot of thought about contingency,s . You can pay us a winners hat and a cheap trophy and we'll race it. Besides my driver won turn down another time trial.

[Ron Ortiz]

Contrary to what people think, having all these different classes is what Stock Eliminator is all about. There are a ton of combos out there and they all fit different classes. There is nothing wrong with that. Having less classes is what will bring Stock down. You are trying to create lump classes to satisfy who? NHRA, select racers, time restraints, or is it contingencies. How about this. Contingency sponsors paying for Stock, only pay for the classes that have participants.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA this isn't hard people

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Contrary to what people think, having all these different classes is what Stock Eliminator is all about. There are a ton of combos out there and they all fit different classes. There is nothing wrong with that. Having less classes is what will bring Stock down. You are trying to create lump classes to satisfy who? NHRA, select racers, time restraints, or is it contingencies. How about this. Contingency sponsors paying for Stock, only pay for the classes that have participants.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA this isn't hard people

Great post Ron.