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Old 06-14-2017, 02:01 PM   #1
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Like many, it goes fast because it was not factored correctly and the system that's in place to do so is not allowed to work as intended.

With the respect due fellow racers, what's wrong with factoring cars prudently commensurate with true performance capability?
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:25 PM   #2
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Put in a 5 speed manual and all is well.................and fun!
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:36 PM   #3
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Like many, it goes fast because it was not factored correctly and the system that's in place to do so is not allowed to work as intended.

With the respect due fellow racers, what's wrong with factoring cars prudently commensurate with true performance capability?
How does NHRA know the real performance of some of the newer combo's? They don't, because they base the HP ratings from what they see and record from the racers. If a guy holds some in his back pocket it could years for that combo to be fairly rated or until another racer with that combo shows his hand.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:46 PM   #4
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It's the "holding" and protection of the combination that causes this dilemma.

In fairness and for the respect of competition, what's wrong with accurate factors based on actual performance capability? Those that aren't willing to apply the effort and invest the time won't compete favorably in any case.

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Old 06-14-2017, 05:22 PM   #5
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A little interesting tidbit is that 1983 Camaro coupe is still factored at 263 HP.....
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:46 PM   #6
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I thought I might make a couple of points here.
This is not meant to knock anybody .(Okay, maybe NHRA) .I've known Kenny for a long time . He helped me build a S/S Chevy II station wagon, over 40 years ago. He certainly has paid his dues, both literally and figuratively.

* Jeff Stout told you what's supposed to happen if you show up with an F.I. air inlet duct in front of a 4 bbl. carb engine. That alone is a good reason to have knowledgeable tech guys look at every car, every race.

* I always thought you supposed to take everything off of the front end of a drag car , that wasn't needed, no matter how small or light. ;-)
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If Tech says you need the body pcs. to present your Camaro as a Z28, like hood, ground effects, spoiler, etc. and of course your min. weight is different than a plain Camaro then that air inlet should be on the car. You can't suck and blow at the same time. Hey that's 2/3's of a pun, pu
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If Tech says you need the body pcs. to present your Camaro as a Z28, like hood, ground effects, spoiler, etc. and of course your min. weight is different than a plain Camaro then that air inlet should be on the car. You can't suck and blow at the same time. Hey that's 2/3's of a pun, pu
A carbureted Z28 would have that? Or, would it not be a Z28 without the EFI?
With, or without that plastic piece, but a carbureted version did not come with that. Could help direct air, but did not come on carbureted cars. I worked on those when they were new.
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In a perfect NHRA tech environment, there would be proper technical inspections performed by dedicated and knowledgeable personnel with the resources necessary to enforce the rule book, and back in Glendora and the Divisional offices there would be a knowledgeable staff to closely monitor performance, factoring and technical standards.
At one time all this existed, but it will never happen again, the NHRA won't fund it because it's no longer important to them. They've made a business decision.
Just an observation, not a criticism.
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In a perfect NHRA tech environment, there would be proper technical inspections performed by dedicated and knowledgeable personnel with the resources necessary to enforce the rule book, and back in Glendora and the Divisional offices there would be a knowledgeable staff to closely monitor performance, factoring and technical standards.
At one time all this existed, but it will never happen again, the NHRA won't fund it because it's no longer important to them. They've made a business decision.
Just an observation, not a criticism.
You are right NHRA doesn't give a damn . It is all money to them
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