Class Racing Farce

[GrapeApe7575]

I don't fault anyone who can build a 1.50 under car....I salute them and try to emulate them. It is the ridiculous classification system in which we compete that I am referring to.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by GrapeApe7575

I don't fault anyone who can build a 1.50 under car....I salute them and try to emulate them. It is the ridiculous classification system in which we compete that I am referring to.

So would everyone feel better if the 1.50 under guys kept getting AHFS hits in any given class? The way I see it, the guys that can run the furthest under will win no matter what system is in place, and as well they should.

[Gary Smith]

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan

So would everyone feel better if the 1.50 under guys kept getting AHFS hits in any given class? The way I see it, the guys that can run the furthest under will win no matter what system is in place, and as well they should.

That's easy to say if you've never run a low hp combo and receive an early 5hp Christmas gift like some of us have in the past. For me that meant an extra 200 lbs. That's like taking $7500 out of your work and tossing it into the dumpster. We all love wanting to find ways of making our stuff go fast. But I think Kirby has a point how AHFS continues to be exploited by the fat wallet racers. A guy with the $150,000 F/SA car will always control the "budget" $25,000 F/SA racer. They can buy horsepower and buy the NHRA at the same time.

[Pistol Pete]

But the thing to remember is: The #1 qualifier at this race doesn't get a 1st round bye.
It's definitely a High Prestige Self Awarding Accomplishment to do whether it's at Indy or any other National or Divisional Race to be # 1.

The other point is: You can be .85 under & make it to the finals as long as you do not race the 1.45 under car during the rounds. And even if you did run him, he still has to stage the car & race you, everyone knows in this sport "anything can happen".

Here in Div. 1 at 1 of our points races 1 guy made it to finals in Stock Elim. by barely running his index, so anything is possible.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by Gary Smith

That's easy to say if you've never run a low hp combo and receive an early 5hp Christmas gift like some of us have in the past. For me that meant an extra 200 lbs. That's like taking $7500 out of your work and tossing it into the dumpster. We all love wanting to find ways of making our stuff go fast. But I think Kirby has a point how AHFS continues to be exploited by the fat wallet racers. A guy with the $150,000 F/SA car will always control the "budget" $25,000 F/SA racer. They can buy horsepower and buy the NHRA at the same time.

There's a good posibility I may learn something new here being a newb, but no matter what rules are in place won't it always be the "fat wallet racer" that has an advantage in class eliminations? Throw everyone in the bracket end of this and all of a sudden the playing field looks pretty level.

[Pistol Pete]

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan

There's a good posibility I may learn something new here being a newb, but no matter what rules are in place won't it always be the "fat wallet racer" that has an advantage in class eliminations? Throw everyone in the bracket end of this and all of a sudden the playing field looks pretty level.

100% Correct unless your running against Mr Fat Wallet Racer heads up during the rounds

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

100% Correct unless your running against Mr Fat Wallet Racer heads up during the rounds

Plenty of ways around that too, everyone plays the ladder to their own advantage, running those people late in the ladder if they both make it that far. Here's my problem with the complaining, it's a drag race, the faster car is supposed to win and we all have to make a decision how much $$$ we're willing to sacrifice for a trophy. Or maybe we should add up the contingencies to find out how long it will take to get our money back from the 1.5 under engine investment.

[Lee Valentine]

I've been racing stock eliminator since the late sixties and this is the same argument in just a different form since then, this is what we signed up for going in. If you didn't realize that you didn't research what you were doing very well.

[kansas stocker]

It's not the fat wallet or great builder that disheartens me. It's the stoke of NHRA's pen.
302ci Ford at 133 hp or there about depending on the body vs 283 Chevrolet at 170 hp.
Bigger bore and more cubic inches is worth -37 hp? You don't need NHRA's sometimes used factoring to see that that isn't right. I'm not faulting those that are running the combination. They are just using what was given them.They would still be tough at 180 hp but at least the field would be leveled a little. My rant for the month and I've used it up early.
Pete

[Jim Wery]

Keep the info coming, as I'm new to this as well, and at times wondering why I'm building a SS/BA car.