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Old 11-28-2017, 12:35 PM   #1
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Tony (Cratemotor), many of us have to wonder why anybody would build a car that could only run with one association? Why would a person not simply build one that could run with anywhere?

NHRA has so many classes, and cars (compared to IHRA) that why would anybody want to add more classes?

And our hard working tech people have to keep up with even more combinations?

I have been doing this since 1962, and have now seen both AHRA & IHRA come and go. Both had some "unusual" classes.

Logical thing to do would build a car that could run anyplace. Not expect others to make new rules to accommodate your poor choices.

You can't just make your car a legal Stocker?
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Old 11-28-2017, 06:30 PM   #3
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Logical thing to do would build a car that could run anyplace. Not expect others to make new rules to accommodate your poor choices.

You can't just make your car a legal Stocker?
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My new stocker (older car) AA, A or B/A car is being built with an eye toward other classes if I don't want to run in stock only. It can go S/ST, NE, D-gas, brackets etc. and can be easily made street legal. Yea it's going to cost about 50K but that's probably less than a new car (Corvette, Mustang, Challenger) would set you back.
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Old 11-28-2017, 07:59 PM   #4
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Tony (Cratemotor), many of us have to wonder why anybody would build a car that could only run with one association? Why would a person not simply build one that could run with anywhere?

NHRA has so many classes, and cars (compared to IHRA) that why would anybody want to add more classes?

And our hard working tech people have to keep up with even more combinations?

I have been doing this since 1962, and have now seen both AHRA & IHRA come and go. Both had some "unusual" classes.

Logical thing to do would build a car that could run anyplace. Not expect others to make new rules to accommodate your poor choices.

You can't just make your car a legal Stocker?
You asked me this before like im some kind of moron. 2016 Nitro Joes shows over 50 CM cars. So i guess im not the only one who chose to back myself into a corner. In my geographical area we have (had) 2 tracks with in 3 hours driving distance that have (had) IHRA National or divisional races. So it made sence for me to build an IHRA combo. Plus, without making excuses, there is also 4 or more dirt circle track and 1 ashfalt track in a 5 hour radius so alot of the good castings have gone away with that stuff so yes it next to impossible to find heads and intakes. 330hp Crate motor uses 2 castings found on 96 and up 5.7L vortec engines and they flow real well and there is lots available. So it made sence at the time to move forward with the crate engine combo. And as for the hard working NHRA officials its maybe 10 more engines (ford, dodge and GM) that are identical to whats already there inspection wise. Your making it sound like we have some exotic stuff that is space age.
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Old 11-28-2017, 08:41 PM   #5
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You asked me this before like im some kind of moron. 2016 Nitro Joes shows over 50 CM cars. So i guess im not the only one who chose to back myself into a corner. In my geographical area we have (had) 2 tracks with in 3 hours driving distance that have (had) IHRA National or divisional races. So it made sence for me to build an IHRA combo.
WOW, 50 Crate Motor cars for all of 2016, NHRA had almost 1600 cars in their Stock classes in 2016, also according to the 2016 Nitro Joe Stats. What would have made more sense in my opinion, is if you would have built a NHRA legal combination to start with, you could have still ran IHRA, as well as NHRA events, and not had to complain about making a bad choice. Let me guess, when VCRs first came out, I bet that you chose a BETA system.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:00 PM   #6
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Shame to have your class done away with like that. Last time I tried to run an IHRA race, I told my friends "This deal is dying." Never did get my check cashed.

Last time I looked Nitro Joe showed more than 50 cars in my class alone (SS/JA), more than all the crate motor cars.
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Shame to have your class done away with like that. Last time I tried to run an IHRA race, I told my friends "This deal is dying." Never did get my check cashed.

Last time I looked Nitro Joe showed more than 50 cars in my class alone (SS/JA), more than all the crate motor cars.
I didnt count GT Stock or Pure Stock but it still wouldnt add up to the 1600 that apparently made the call to the lanes in 2016 acording to below. More races, wider spectrum and more land to cover in NHRA. Guess ill go bracket racing...same as you guys. Have fun. Headed to the rec room now to watch Caddyshack on Beta.
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Tony, I cannot understand why you would not take a year and make your car legal for NHRA.
Along with the CanAm series, there are are two "Opens" close by and several races in the North Eastern US.
If you wanted to attend every one of them, you would not have enough time in the season.
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Tony, I cannot understand why you would not take a year and make your car legal for NHRA.
Along with the CanAm series, there are are two "Opens" close by and several races in the North Eastern US.
If you wanted to attend every one of them, you would not have enough time in the season.
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:52 PM   #10
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Wanting another racing association to add new classes for you guys sounds kinda like a Liberal deal, doesn't it? LMAO
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