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Old 11-29-2017, 04:35 PM   #1
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Tony, I understand your frustration. However, we all made choices when we bought or built our cars. After much soul searching I decided to look for or build a NHRA legal car as it allowed me to run in Brackets, IHRA and NHRA. For someone starting out, it was not the cheapest choice, but the best choice.
Since my purchase, I have not stopped pouring money into my project in order to make it more user friendly, more consistent and quicker, all with the same thought of ensuring that the final product is NHRA Legal and can qualify at an event.
It really does not matter where I qualify on the ladder, just that I qualify and get to race at the NHRA event.
The IHRA and NHRA were two different organizations, in competition with each other for attendance and the all mighty dollar. The IHRA lost the fight. From what I have seen, in my short time participating at this level, it was strictly due to lack of participation.
I really do not care what John Force, or any of the Forces do, as long as I have a place to race.
I'm not sure why you think that he NHRA should just pick up your or any other IHRA class. From what I can see, they have enough classes and more participants than there are spaces.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:18 PM   #2
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As many here have said before. Stock isn't broke.Stock doesn't need fixing.participation at the div level is strong,and there are racers looking for spots open at every natl. Stocker racers aren't snobs. They are just proud of what they have built. They have really helped us. Did I EVER think I would have so much money in such a slow car? Hell no..but I'm past the pain now. ..so grab a credit card and get NHRA legal. ...we're waiting. ...
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:32 PM   #3
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When I built my car everything around here was IHRA, I could basically run every division 9 race without leaving my state. Closest NHRA race at the time was Charlotte which is about 5 hours from me and ofcourse it was a National event so you had to go to a division race to be able to enter Charlotte, closest division race was Bristol at around 7 hours. Point is I didn't even consider building a CM car because of the reasons everyone has said plus the fact you were also limiting the people you could sale it to if you ever wanted to. Why go that far into a build and stop a couple thousand short of making it a car that could race anywhere.
I really do hate it for you guys I honestly do but to me it would be more of a slap in the face than the factory cars when they were introduced into the regular classes. I for one like many others will welcome anyone who comes out to race but you're going to need to switch your combo. If NHRA ever did approve these cars I would still welcome you all with open arms but I would probably be pissed lol.
Y'all say look at from your point of view but maybe you should do the same and look at from the point of view of the people who spent the money and went through the trouble of getting the hard to find parts.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:15 PM   #4
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The reason I built an IHRA vehicle was an easy one at the time. Just over 11 years ago when I got my license. I wanted something to drive to high school with and race on the weekends. My options were pretty limited for availability in Ontario and for what my budget was being only 16. My cheapest option for something rear wheel drive that had or could easily be made V8, that was easily available, that wasn't junk or a fortune around here was my 96 S10. Immediately put a mild 350 in it and drove it to school and to the track on the weekends and ran bracekts. Did that for a couple years and wanted to go faster, so I made it a dedicated track vehicle and made some changes to go faster and continued running brackets. My dad has bracket raced since the late 70s and has always been a big follower of class racing. So I grew up loving to watch stk/ss at association races or nearby IHRA national events.

At the time we were surrounded by IHRA tracks with 2 national events within 1.5hrs and the closest NHRA national or divisional was 6+hrs away. With a local association, I wanted to run class badly so I looked at my options. Nothing against the 4.3 guys but after only driving it with the small block I didn't want to run a V6 so it wasn't going to be a natural stocker. Being entry level and just finishing an apprenticeship, Super Stock GT was out of my budget for just trying to get into class racing. For me the easiest thing I could do was piece together an affordable crate combination to get my feet wet. So thats what I did, slowly pieced together something over a couple of seasons and was able to make it work running a few tenths under.

I don't the have the unlimited budget like many do. I started racing my truck at 16 and with lots of help from my dad we built it to what it is today. I didn't want an import or run "street car" type racing, I wanted to run class. It was the easiest way for me to get into it. I could of stuck with just running regular brackets but its not what I wanted. So now I'm back to making decisions again. I either step up and run Super Stock GT or just go back to regular brackets. Being bit by the class bug I'll probably step up because I don't think I can ever get out of it now. I just wanted to share why I built what I did. It was the easiest way for me to get involved at an entry level for not being around the muscle car days.

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Old 11-29-2017, 09:03 PM   #5
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Regretfully i chose to respond to your first cherp as i should have treated as an advertisement on the page. Now here i am responding again. Your right Thomas NHRA doesnt have to pick me or any of the other classes. Now i want you to reverse the tables and im going to give you a little lesson on respect. Even if i didnt agree with you on this subject i would read and move on because if i didnt have a good comment to support my fellow racer that i race with every weekend i would rather say nothing. Because at this point your comments and chest beating about NHRA and your NHRA sole searching combo means jack squat and it definitly isnt going to help you when im rapping the throttle at 1000ft. Now go feed the cats and make me a sandwich too while the men talk here ok sweetie.
Tony, throwing at temper tantrum, like a two year old, and assaulting peoples' character, on a public forum, is not going to win you any support or make you any friends. All it does is show your lack of maturity.
I have been following this thread from the beginning and no one is interested in accommodating your IHRA combination or any other IHRA combination in the NHRA classes.
Someone has already pointed out what your options are. I am going to give you one more.
The NHRA has a process by which you can apply to have certain parts made legal for certain combinations. I suggest you try that route as you are flogging a dead horse here.
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