Bracket Racing vs Class Racing

You interjected yourself into the conversation about your class car that bracket race. Then when I point out the differences between the cars that aren’t built for that type of racing you promote and participate, you get offended and start talking about money spent and dic swinging contests.

You don’t care about what people think about you on this board, but you always post about your accomplishments and starting line prowess. Sounds like your trying to prove something to someone.

I give you all the credit in the world for winning in that Turismo. Nobody can take that away from you.

Originally Posted by Michael Beard;

My cars were built for as much as they could do within my budget. How is this in any way relevant to anything? I'm not rich, never have been, never will be. I have no interest in going massively into debt to "maybe" get into the same zip code as people I can never outspend in order to get another Wally while not making the car any more competitive in the other 99% of racing that I do, just to feel accepted by a handful of people on a message board that really don't care anyway. If people have the wherewithal, and choose to spend their time and money in that way, and that's what makes them happy, that's great! More power to them.



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2010 Footbrake Champions Showdown winner


2010 Footbrake Nationals


2011 Farmington Race of Champions winner


Yeah, probably never footbraked a 4-cyl FWD Stocker against delay box cars at the K&N Spring Fling at Bristol (and tree'd all but two in eliminations all week... one I was red, and the other one had me .011 to .013), either...



I'm quite familiar with Class Racing. This is exactly what I've done, and I've done it for 20 years. (Oh, $#!&, I'm old! When did that happen?!)

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

You interjected yourself into the conversation about your class car that bracket race.

The title of the thread is "Bracket Racing vs Class Racing".

Then when I point out the differences between the cars that aren’t built for that type of racing you promote and participate, you get offended

Yes, I absolutely did find it offensive when you chose to belittle class cars that people choose to bracket race as just "bracket cars that fit a class or 2".

and start talking about money spent and dic swinging contests.

QUOTE: "Nothing max effort or Remotely fast against NHRA cars."

You don’t care about what people think about you on this board, but you always post about your accomplishments and starting line prowess. Sounds like your trying to prove something to someone.

QUOTE: "Do you take your Turismo to high dollar foot brake races? I doubt it. And if you did or do you are not beating the pros that win the money at your races."

So throw a baseless jab out there that you don't even have any knowledge of, and the same thing when you claim that my cars are just "bracket cars", and I set the record straight on performance of the vehicles, and then you blame the other person for "trying to prove something" for simply setting the record straight? Wow. That's a brilliant win-win for you. Congratulations.

You put a picture of your car as an example. Those weren’t the cars I was talking about including my own not being an example. I stated my views on why or why not.

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

The title of the thread is "Bracket Racing vs Class Racing".

What do you care? Now that IHRA class is defunct your kinda in limbo.
You converted your car into a full time bracket car. So you have no dog in the fight.


Yes, I absolutely did find it offensive when you chose to belittle class cars that people choose to bracket race as just "bracket cars that fit a class or 2".

Just how I see it. I don’t judge you or anybody as a person on your car status or drag racing results. Just your car.

QUOTE: "Nothing max effort or Remotely fast against NHRA cars."


The Turismo has been planted in weeds for a pretty long time, I see it every time I go to Billy’s. It’s not an active car. Just because you raced it years ago at a race doesn’t mean your racing it.

Your self promoting has been going on long before this thread. Everybody knows how good you are no matter if they have seen you race or not.

QUOTE: "Do you take your Turismo to high dollar foot brake races? I doubt it. And if you did or do you are not beating the pros that win the money at your races."

So throw a baseless jab out there that you don't even have any knowledge of, and the same thing when you claim that my cars are just "bracket cars", and I set the record straight on performance of the vehicles, and then you blame the other person for "trying to prove something" for simply setting the record straight? Wow. That's a brilliant win-win for you. Congratulations.

It really doesn’t matter at this point. Anybody that wants to race their class car should. Bracket racing is a wonderful venue and enjoyable for everyone.

[goinbroke2]

Sheesh, thought I clicked on yellow bullet for a second there....

To sum up both points of view then, how about we say "in general";

A bracket car is over tired and under powered, built to make as many consistent passes as affordable as possible (for the ROI)

A class car is maxed out in every effort to get the utmost in performance from a particular combination.

One who chooses to do both with a class car does so knowing that the car they built to race class (if indeed a max effort) will have less ROI than a cheaper "strictly brackets" type car.

I too love seeing class cars clean up at the big bracket bashes, Lol!

[Billy Nees]

Hey "Boys"! this is getting to sound like the 3 bears. This is too hot and this is too cold and neither one is just right.
Well, Daddy Bear is home so both of you calm down and go to your rooms!
Some Racers spend too much money to go Class Racing!
Some Racers spend too much money to go Bracket Racing!
Neither one of you should give a crap about how other people spend their money! It's their money!!!
You're both the greatest thing since sliced bread! And IF you are, then I'm the bread slicer!
In my lifetime, I have, on occasion, made more money Bracket Racing AND Class Racing then I have working for a living. I will chock that up to being a lucky man in the right place at the right time!
I would NOT advise any sane individual to do ANY kind of Drag Racing if that individual is looking to make a profit!
The END! Done!

[goinbroke2]

Sounds like a new car name Billy,

“The Bread Slicer”

Lol!