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Old 01-26-2018, 07:02 PM   #1
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No, that's not what I'm saying, the local division racers should get first preference, then out of division racers get to enter. All on grade points system of your division.

Why should a racer who never entered an out of division race get preference over an in division racer?
I don't understand what is so difficult about the current system, or why entering a national event is viewed as some sort of birthright.

If you want to race a national, support the series to the point that you won't have a problem. If you get shut out, try harder next year or find something else to do.
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:05 PM   #2
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I asked if I could use the year before my 28 year "retirement". Never got an answer.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:12 PM   #3
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I don't understand what is so difficult about the current system, or why entering a national event is viewed as some sort of birthright.

If you want to race a national, support the series to the point that you won't have a problem. If you get shut out, try harder next year or find something else to do.
It's easy for that response, but when your point races are hundreds of miles apart and you have to work, it's not like trying harder. I lived in D1, you can reach almost any race in just a few hours. Also, there are national opens that don't exist in many other divisions. There needs to another criteria so that the local division racer can race a national event in his "own" division.

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Old 01-26-2018, 08:24 PM   #4
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I don't understand what is so difficult about the current system, or why entering a national event is viewed as some sort of birthright.

If you want to race a national, support the series to the point that you won't have a problem. If you get shut out, try harder next year or find something else to do.
"The present system of grade points and national championship points is broken" The way to race is who spends the most money in going to races and in winning the championship,.
NHRA is the only sports organization that lets "Professionals" compete against amateurs in the world > ,let the bullets fly lol
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:35 PM   #5
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You can attend all the races you want but if you don't make rounds you will not be a player in the National points I don't care how much money you got.
If you claim 8 races with 1st round losses you won't even make the top 200 in Stock.
I had a motor failure last year and lost a bunch of races because of the time of year it happened, got 4 grade points and right now I am shut out of the Gators. Oh well **** happens but I will keep watching and probably get in if the provisionals wait till the last weekend. Same thing has happened alot of these races fill up early but people drop.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:01 PM   #6
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Wtf is wrong with you guys. This topic gets brought up every year. If you want to race national events then get 6 grading points. It’s that simple no one at nhra gives a **** about your schedule or how far you travel to go to get them. Quotes have been down for years now. Do you think I wanted to travel 1000 miles round trip to St. Louis last fall ? No but I know it’s going to take 4 plus to get into a few national events I wanted to attend.
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What Charlie Bob said.
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Wtf is wrong with you guys. This topic gets brought up every year. If you want to race national events then get 6 grading points. It’s that simple no one at nhra gives a **** about your schedule or how far you travel to go to get them. Quotes have been down for years now. Do you think I wanted to travel 1000 miles round trip to St. Louis last fall ? No but I know it’s going to take 4 plus to get into a few national events I wanted to attend.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:53 PM   #9
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Not that it matters any at this point..... but anyone who has been around long enough would remember..... before NHRA began implementing these quotas..... when fields were basically open to 128 entries..... none of this grade point stuff was an issue. You had to have at least one grade point to enter a National Event but I don't recall anyone getting shut out of a race they wanted to attend. It's the limits on entries that is responsible for this problem. Through out the 90's - before quotas - at the National meets here in the Northeast, I remember the number of SS entries being somewhere between 80 & 90 cars.... and Stock between 95 & 115. The Div 3 races were probably a bit higher than these but not by a tremendous amount.
We all know these numbers declined over time. It would be interesting to know the exact number of racers (in all the sportsman categories) who aren't getting in to national events that they would actually otherwise attend. It may not be all that many. With that data, it's possible the SRAC reps could request that quotas be adjusted so that the racers who fall into the above category would have the opportunity to get in to the one or two national meets they'd like to attend. IDK - maybe I'm totally off base here. The whole thing isn't really that important to me.... To those that it is still important to.... if you don't have the time to make it to more points meets to build up grade points.... you could consider showing up with rental car right before tech closes, pay the entry, get teched in, and turn around and go home. It's essentially buying grade points.... I personally wouldn't do it.... but if running a national event is that important to some it might be worth it.
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Wtf is wrong with you guys. This topic gets brought up every year. If you want to race national events then get 6 grading points. It’s that simple no one at nhra gives a **** about your schedule or how far you travel to go to get them. Quotes have been down for years now. Do you think I wanted to travel 1000 miles round trip to St. Louis last fall ? No but I know it’s going to take 4 plus to get into a few national events I wanted to attend.
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